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Unread 03-03-2013, 04:52 PM   #46
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Riddle me this: Does putting a body lift on increase suspension travel? Simply no. I don't see how this point is arguable to anyone Slade.
"Simply"...Only if it allows you to remove or avoid 1" of bump stop...

BUT, at the same time, it adds 1" of tire to body clearance without decreasing or limiting suspension travel with a bump stop.

I don't see how that can be argued either.

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"Simply"...Only if it allows you to remove or avoid 1" of bump stop...

BUT, at the same time, it adds 1" of tire to body clearance without decreasing or limiting suspension travel with a bump stop.

I don't see how that can be argued either.
stop trying to defend body lifts, you're just embarrassing yourself.
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I typed out a really long reply but realized that this thread was way beyond recovery, and deleted it. Haha
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I typed out a really long reply but realized that this thread was way beyond recovery, and deleted it. Haha
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I typed out a really long reply but realized that this thread was way beyond recovery, and deleted it. Haha
Imagine how I feel. It WAS my thread. Just looking for an answer to a simple question. Got a couple that I appreciate but for the most part it was a pissing contest. Disappointing. But I do think I'll skip the body lift and if I want to go back to 100% stock I'll buy new knuckles or find some junk yard take offs. Thanks for the people that answered my question.

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stop trying to defend body lifts, you're just embarrassing yourself.

I'm not embarressed.

Most of you are on your first Jeep and you have an XJ.....



I'm not just regurgitating something I saw on Jeepforum.
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I'm not embarressed.

Most of you are on your first Jeep and you have an XJ.....



I'm not just regurgitating something I saw on Jeepforum.
my father has a TJ, but i am the one that does all the modifications and maintenence for it. so i have a lot of experience with TJs and the suspension system, which is identical to the front of an XJ

please show us your sources of your argument.
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Imagine how I feel. It WAS my thread. Just looking for an answer to a simple question. Got a couple that I appreciate but for the most part it was a pissing contest. Disappointing. But I do think I'll skip the body lift and if I want to go back to 100% stock I'll buy new knuckles or find some junk yard take offs. Thanks for the people that answered my question.

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my father has a TJ, but i am the one that does all the modifications and maintenence for it. so i have a lot of experience with TJs and the suspension system, which is identical to the front of an XJ

please show us your sources of your argument.
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Looks like I'd have to hold your hand, take you out to your Daddy's TJ and walk you through it with a tape measure for you to understand.
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Looks like I'd have to hold your hand, take you out to your Daddy's TJ and walk you through it with a tape measure for you to understand.
looks like you'll have to do that for everyone else here too as the only person that agrees with you is yourself.

Since you dont know what a source is ill spell it out for you. >Show us a few links to other people stating the same thing you are, i'd be impressed if you actually did find some material.

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looks like you'll have to do that for everyone else here too as the only person that agrees with you is yourself.

Since you dont know what a source is ill spell it out for you. >Show us a few links to other people stating the same thing you are, i'd be impressed if you actually did find some material.

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Maybe you can help me understand (since you do have alot of experience working on Jeeps)....

How does extending a bump stop 2" NOT take away from the available suspension travel?

If you are able to reduce that same bump stop to a 1" extended bump stop (instead of 2"), would you gain travel, lose travel, or would the amount of travel stay the same?
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Imagine how I feel. It WAS my thread. Just looking for an answer to a simple question. Got a couple that I appreciate but for the most part it was a pissing contest. Disappointing. But I do think I'll skip the body lift and if I want to go back to 100% stock I'll buy new knuckles or find some junk yard take offs. Thanks for the people that answered my question.

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Yep. Sorry dude, happens a lot around here unfortunately. I haven't found any jeep forum so far that doesn't work that way....
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Imagine how I feel. It WAS my thread. Just looking for an answer to a simple question. Got a couple that I appreciate but for the most part it was a pissing contest. Disappointing. But I do think I'll skip the body lift and if I want to go back to 100% stock I'll buy new knuckles or find some junk yard take offs. Thanks for the people that answered my question.

Cheers
Apologize for the argument. I think you are taking the the right actions though. Suspension lifts offer a better advantage and put less wear on the body mounts/tub mounts.
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