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Unread 07-20-2010, 03:27 PM   #1
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Procal And Superchip?

I am currently using a Superchip on my Rubi and I am very satisfied with it, however; my AEV premium lift will come with the Procal.

My question is since the Procal does not adjust the power of the truck i.e advancing spark and shift points but does have other useful features. Could you use both together and if so would there be any benefit of doing so.

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Unread 07-20-2010, 09:51 PM   #2
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There is another thread on here where AEV said yes....... Can't remember where it is but it should be easy to find .
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Unread 07-20-2010, 10:36 PM   #3
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There is another thread on here where AEV said yes....... Can't remember where it is but it should be easy to find .
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I did a search and cant find anything. I don't see why you couldn't use both and get the best out of each that you want. Scared to try it though.
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Unread 07-20-2010, 11:01 PM   #4
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On my wife's rig, we have run a ProCal on top of a Flashpaq for about a year now.

The ProCal is merely a calibration tool. We used it for the TPMS delete prior to the feature becoming available on the Flashpaq. We also use it for centering the steering wheel and a few other things.

The ProCal really is unnecessary. You can sell it and use the money for other modifications. I have just been too lazy to sell our ProCal.
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Unread 07-20-2010, 11:04 PM   #5
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I just pmed you an email address which will help ........
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Unread 07-21-2010, 12:45 AM   #6
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Thanks,

I did a search and cant find anything. I don't see why you couldn't use both and get the best out of each that you want. Scared to try it though.
Superchips says not to stack different programmers, as it can cause unknown problems and that they will not be liable if any occur.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 07:34 AM   #8
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Superchips says not to stack different programmers, as it can cause unknown problems and that they will not be liable if any occur.
The ProCal is not a programmer. It is a calibrator. I will not tune anything.
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The ProCal is not a programmer. It is a calibrator. I will not tune anything.
Ok, so the Procal does not work if it's not plugged into the OBD port, whereas the Flashpaq writes the code to the PCM/ECU and is then unplugged?

My paranoia is that differing aftermarket products that communicate with the electronic control systems are not tested/certified compatible with each other. Planes have crashed because of electronic components fighting each other over which one has priority.
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In all reality, if you download the Off-Road only update from Superchips that allows you to turn off the TPMS, the only features you would ever consider using on the ProCal would be:
  • using it to tell you when the steering wheel is centered
  • daytime running lamps for the fogs
  • on-touch lane changes for the turning signal
  • turn off the Rubi swaybar system if you replace it with a Currie Anti-Rock

Other than that, there would be no use for the ProCal because the Superchips does everything else.

I don't know what would happen if you set the axle ratio with the Superchips and then tried to change it with the ProCal. Probably nothing, but there is no need to do it.

The ProCal does no tuning. It does nothing with the fuel advance or air/fuel mixture.

This will tell you what the ProCal can do:

http://www.aev-conversions.com/pdf/i...User_Guide.pdf
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Thanks Planman. Cleared up a few questions I had before ordering.
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Unread 07-22-2010, 09:46 AM   #12
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Ok, so the Procal does not work if it's not plugged into the OBD port, whereas the Flashpaq writes the code to the PCM/ECU and is then unplugged?

My paranoia is that differing aftermarket products that communicate with the electronic control systems are not tested/certified compatible with each other. Planes have crashed because of electronic components fighting each other over which one has priority.
planman sized things up really well in a later post, but just to confirm:

With the ProCal, you make all your settings and then plug it in to the OBD port to calibrate and set things, then you unplug it. With 35s, the biggest value of the ProCal for me was to heal the speedo and calibrate the skid-control traction-control for the bigger tires. Everything else was bonus.

It's not changing the fuel mapping anywhere (e.g. in the ECU) to give you more horsepower or higher fuel economy.
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