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Unread 09-08-2013, 02:41 PM   #1
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I Got my first Wrangler a new 2012 Sahara 3,6 unlimited.

I didn't have any off Road experience, so i didn't know what to look for ón the optionlist and now i kind off like to have had the "Track lok" option for the Sahara and Sport model standard on Moab special edition.

Any one know if a Jeep dealer should be able to install that option on my car, if so any ideer of the economic konsekvensens ?

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Unread 09-08-2013, 06:03 PM   #2
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Go aftermarket....

Detroit/Eaton Truetrac is a much better unit if you didn't get Trac-Lok installed from the factory.
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Unread 09-08-2013, 06:29 PM   #3
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If all you want is the Trac-Lok option, and don't have it from the factory, all JKs come with Traction Control that applies the brake to the spinning wheel, front and rear axle. It's unofficially known as Brake-Lock-Differential.
It works well enough that it's not worth it to purchase and install the factory Trac-Lok as an aftermarket option. If you want to install something to enhance traction, there are a lot of better options.
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Unread 09-08-2013, 07:26 PM   #4
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Go aftermarket....

Detroit/Eaton Truetrac is a much better unit if you didn't get Trac-Lok installed from the factory.
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Really like my True Trac in my existing Jeep. Plus you get good on-road manners, too.
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Unread 09-08-2013, 11:26 PM   #5
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Thank you for your reply, looks like the Detroit diff is the way to go. Do you get one for bough front and rear, or can start / live with one at the rear as a kind of stage 1 solution ?
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Unread 09-09-2013, 05:13 AM   #6
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I am considering a trutrac front and rear. Especially if you are regearing after adding 35's like I did. Might as well add the diff while you are in there.
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Unread 09-09-2013, 06:14 AM   #7
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I dont think i will go for 35" tires, mine are 265/70/17 think its like very close to 32" i might go for 33" if i convince my self for a lift, a mild one like max 2" its my every day drive and i'm like a hardcore rock climber or mud racer, i train a lot in terrain that are tougher than i would do for a expedition type of vacation later on. It looks like the optional Trac lok are onlu on the rear, thats why i thought that this Truetrac could be a stage 1 in the back.
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Unread 09-09-2013, 08:19 AM   #8
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Just had Detroit TrueTracs installed front and rear on my 13. Had it regeard at the same time.

If you have 3.21 gears, you really should get it regeared at the same time.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 05:19 AM   #9
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Just had Detroit TrueTracs installed front and rear on my 13. Had it regeard at the same time.

If you have 3.21 gears, you really should get it regeared at the same time.
Tell us your opinion on trail performance now that you have added gears and trutracs. I am considering this very same thing.
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Tell us your opinion on trail performance now that you have added gears and trutracs. I am considering this very same thing.


You can't go wrong with gears and replacing open carriers with something better. It's the best place you can spend your money. Gearing shouldn't be considered, it should be planned on.
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Unread 09-11-2013, 05:21 AM   #11
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You can't go wrong with gears and replacing open carriers with something better. It's the best place you can spend your money. Gearing shouldn't be considered, it should be planned on.
For me gears were a must from the start. No doubt. I just have to decide what traction device to add while I am in there. My JKU doesn't have an identity yet since it is a daily driver and I have a very well built TJ that does hard trail duty. It's my own fault because I haven't decided yet what it wants to be. Right now I can go anywhere from Tru tracs on stock axles to yanking the stockers out and doing D60's with ARB,s. I am leaning towards mild though and I like your idea of the Trutracs front and rear.
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Unread 09-11-2013, 06:16 AM   #12
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As others have said forget Trac Lok.

I've got TT's F/R on my 13'. No trails yet but they've been great on slippery surfaces. There is a noticeable difference in traction. I'm running 285/70R/70 BFG KO's. Actually a decent tire for everything except deep mud. I've read they hydroplane but that hasn't been my experience. Maybe if I drove 75mph in heavy rain they would. Besides they came on my Jeep.

One thing to keep in mind is that at least in my case the front TT made the steering a little heavier in 2wd but I got used to it very quickly. If you ever plan on a lot of rock crawling TT's aren't the best, but for everything else they work very well. You should re gear at the same time if you have 3.21. I don't plan on running bigger tires ( no lift ) so my 3.73's are perfect for me.
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Unread 09-11-2013, 08:29 AM   #13
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As others have said forget Trac Lok.

I've got TT's F/R on my 13'. No trails yet but they've been great on slippery surfaces. There is a noticeable difference in traction. I'm running 285/70R/70 BFG KO's. Actually a decent tire for everything except deep mud. I've read they hydroplane but that hasn't been my experience. Maybe if I drove 75mph in heavy rain they would. Besides they came on my Jeep.

One thing to keep in mind is that at least in my case the front TT made the steering a little heavier in 2wd but I got used to it very quickly. If you ever plan on a lot of rock crawling TT's aren't the best, but for everything else they work very well. You should re gear at the same time if you have 3.21. I don't plan on running bigger tires ( no lift ) so my 3.73's are perfect for me.
Good info! I have read of guys on the TJ forum that said Trutracs perform well even on rocks as long as you keep the wheels on the ground. Makes sense. I wonder if the stock traction control would enhace the limited slip's ability even further as was posted earlier in the thread.
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Unread 09-11-2013, 10:10 AM   #14
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Good info! I have read of guys on the TJ forum that said Trutracs perform well even on rocks as long as you keep the wheels on the ground. Makes sense. I wonder if the stock traction control would enhace the limited slip's ability even further as was posted earlier in the thread.
I understand TT's work in concert with traction control/BLD, and yes TT's aren't necessarily bad on rocks. They work best with tires on the ground, but should work ok occasionally lifting tires. Lockers are better if you want a serious rock crawling rig.

One thing to consider is should you reuse the bearings. Mine had relatively low miles. After inspecting the bearings my shop said they have no problem using them. If I were to do it over I would have had new bearings put in just for the peace of mind.

Does anyone happen to know what bearings are in the newer Wranglers ? Hopefully they're Timken or something equivalent.
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Unread 09-11-2013, 11:08 AM   #15
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For me gears were a must from the start. No doubt. I just have to decide what traction device to add while I am in there. My JKU doesn't have an identity yet since it is a daily driver and I have a very well built TJ that does hard trail duty. It's my own fault because I haven't decided yet what it wants to be. Right now I can go anywhere from Tru tracs on stock axles to yanking the stockers out and doing D60's with ARB,s. I am leaning towards mild though and I like your idea of the Trutracs front and rear.
I'm sorta in the same place as you are.

I chose the TrueTrac's front and rear to keep my 13 completely comfortable on the street since it's primary purpose is a DD. My JK will have all 4 tires on the ground damn near all the time, so there really wasn't a need for anything more than the TrueTracs. I Have a TJ with Detroits front and rear that I use to beat around on the trails. If I didn't have the TJ, I probably would have gone with a TrueTrac front and a Detroit Locker in the rear.
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