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Unread 09-20-2014, 11:40 AM   #1
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Out of ideas, need advice for what to do next

OK. I am at my wits end. I had a bunch of parts worn out this summer . Both of my trac bars gave up the ghost after years of abuse, control arms too. So, now I have all new teraflex trac bars and adjustable control arms. Alignment is set to exactly what it was before parts wore out. It has been verified by two different shops on computers. It's set for the lift, not for stock. I also had the ball joints replaced with the Polyperformance ball joints. I have checked all my bolt holes up front to make sure they are not wallowed out and bolts are torqued to proper specs. If the pavement is glassy smooth it tracks perfectly. I can take my hands off the wheel. However, if the pavement is rough, if it has grooves, or is wavy... The jeep is all over the place. Or, if it's windy, the pavement doesn't matter, it's all over the place. Even if it's glassy pavement and calm winds, it will periodically every mile or two grab and pull left or right. I can't flat tow it behind my RV anymore either, because it wags the dog when it grabs. Again, the specs are checked and verified as to what they were previously to part replacements. It used to drive great...tracked good, wind only bothered it an appropriate amount for a lifted jeep, flat towed it 20K miles with zero issues since I got it properly aligned. So, somebody help, where do I go from here? Thanks!

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Unread 09-20-2014, 11:47 AM   #2
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Can you post the alignment specs?
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Unread 09-20-2014, 12:02 PM   #3
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check and make sure track bar mounting locations are not "wallered out" and have a hole bigger than the bolt
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check and make sure track bar mounting locations are not "wallered out" and have a hole bigger than the bolt
I did check these. They are not.
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Can you post the alignment specs?
Left front caster was 2.8, right front caster was 2.6. Left front toe was 0.05in and right front toe was 0.06in for a total toe of 0.11in. Steer ahead was 0.00.

These are the specs I have had the last three years with zero problems. They are the specs I have now and it's scary to drive.
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Unread 09-20-2014, 12:50 PM   #6
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are the wheels different than you had before? sometimes those little retainer clips mess people up when they change stuff around on wheels and or spacers
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if the track bars are adjustable make sure they aint slipping
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Over pressured tires?

What are the caster numbers?

I know when i put in the new Synergy ball joints. They were TIGHT I mean very tight. it took a few hundred miles for them to break in. On first few miles the jeep would not want to return to straight. but i did the tie rod and drag link as well so all those parts were very tight. be VERY sure you greased the new joint's, they are not pre lubed and only come with assembly lube.
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Those caster number are VERY low. Should be more like 4-5.5.
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99 dollars AEV control arm drop bracket should fix that caster right doc?
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Those caster number are VERY low. Should be more like 4-5.5.
I agree. However, it's been fine for 3.5 years. Why is it all of a sudden driving so badly? Plus, a driveshaft and two different alignment shops, plus the local 4wd shop all told me not to set the caster higher because then my pinion angle would be too high...that is why they are set where they are. Again, no problem for over three years.
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Over pressured tires? What are the caster numbers? I know when i put in the new Synergy ball joints. They were TIGHT I mean very tight. it took a few hundred miles for them to break in. On first few miles the jeep would not want to return to straight. but i did the tie rod and drag link as well so all those parts were very tight. be VERY sure you greased the new joint's, they are not pre lubed and only come with assembly lube.
Jeep returns to straight when I make turns, no problem.... With decent force. The ball joints are greased. They have about 500 miles on them since the install.
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Tire pressure is at 30 psi.
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99 dollars AEV control arm drop bracket should fix that caster right doc?
I looked these up... I'm unclear if they work with aftermarket control arms?
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if the track bars are adjustable make sure they aint slipping
They are adjustable. Axles are way off center without them. They are tight.
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