I just received a ORH/California top for my 4dr JK. I ordered it in early September and it was to my door in less than 3 weeks. I have read all the bad press so I thought I would share how my experience went. I ordered the top from California tops. I emailed Tim Taylor the next day and basically told him that All I expected from him was an email confirming my order. I explained to him that I realized that it was a handcrafted specialty top and that I relized that it may take some time to make. I told him that I understood that I would probably be on a list and that patience would be required. About 8 days later, I finally received an email from Mr. Taylor that stated that the top had been shipped and he provided a tracking number. A little over a week the top showed up at my door. He sent me a second email thanking me for the purchase and told me that I would like the top he sent me. I put the top on and Wow....this guy has this top design down to a science. Fit and finish was great and I could not be happier with the top. This guy gets beat up pretty bad and I have seen some emails that he has sent in the past, trying to explain himself. Sometimes you just have to give a guy a chance. For those of you who have had a bad experience....I understand your frustration. By the way...I ordered mine directly from California Tops.....maybe that is the way to go.