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Unread 10-03-2006, 03:11 PM   #16
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chip and a big intercooler and that 3.0 diesel should easily see 250+bhp. You can get the Land Rover 2.5 TD5 unit upto 200bhp pretty easy.

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Unread 10-03-2006, 04:56 PM   #17
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plus diesel aftermarket companies like Gale Banks engineering would be all over a diesel wrangler. Imagine the upgrades gale banks could make.
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Unread 10-03-2006, 06:00 PM   #18
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The '07 WK is getting a 3.0 diesel, and after the success of the CRD Liberty for '05 and '06, I expect the redesigned '08 Liberty to have it again. Hopefully that is. My wife's KJ will get sold for a diesel Jeep to tow my TJ around.
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Unread 10-04-2006, 11:39 AM   #19
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The 3.0 is a great engine for the wrangler. I just donít know much about the diesels besides choking at the back of fishing boats, I know, not a good comparison. They do spew more smoke than a gas burner though. Just the nature of the engine.

Don't get me wrong, I would love either. I just perceive a less smelly ride with the gas burner when the top or windows are off. I could be wrong though.
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Unread 10-05-2006, 08:35 AM   #20
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The 3.0 is a great engine for the wrangler. I just donít know much about the diesels besides choking at the back of fishing boats, I know, not a good comparison. They do spew more smoke than a gas burner though. Just the nature of the engine.

Don't get me wrong, I would love either. I just perceive a less smelly ride with the gas burner when the top or windows are off. I could be wrong though.

Actually... Modern turbo diesels are quiet and clean. Now that we finally get the low-sulfur diesel fuel here in the US the smoke will go away as well (the high sulfur content of our old fuel would clog up catalytic converters and particulate traps that otherwise works great for cleaning up diesel exhaust.
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Unread 10-05-2006, 09:47 AM   #21
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If the CRD does make it into the JK I would exect to see nice fuel gains particularly on the highway. I know it has brick like aero working against it but I could see 25-27 at highway speeds. But city would only be 1 maybe 2 MPG better. Again all speculation if it even happened.

Usually with diesels, you get close to the same highway mileage, however do significantly better locally.
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Unread 10-05-2006, 09:53 AM   #22
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Usually with diesels, you get close to the same highway mileage, however do significantly better locally.
Actually, it depends entirely on your driving style, load, gearing, etc.
A diesel engine, requires much less fuel when under partial throttle, essentially this is where all the fuel economy benefits are.
Under WOT you get virtually no fuel economy benefits over a similar gasoline engine.
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Unread 10-05-2006, 10:08 AM   #23
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I can't speak for all diesels, although I own one. It is a modified Cummins in a 3/4 ton Dodge. On a dyno, it is over 400 rwhp, and 850 ft lbs of torque. I get 21 mpg on the hwy with the cruise set at 70. I don't think any gas motor could come even close to those power levels, or fuel burn. The Dodge 8.0 V-10 would get about 12 mpg on the hwy, and still not have enough power.

Diesel engines are a perfect choice for Jeep.
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Unread 10-06-2006, 02:41 PM   #24
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The 3.0 is going in the WK I don't see what won't fit about the JK. Who cares give me the 2.8 CRD and I'll chip it!
Well, for one, they're completely different vehicles. That's like saying, "You can fit 37's on a JK with a 4" lift and no trimming, I don't see what won't fit about the WK". I've also been told, by someone who works for DCX, that the 3.0L and its transmission won't fit in the JK. And the 3.0L won't bolt up to the existing trannies used in the JK.

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Would any of these diesels be avaliable with a manual tranny?
Doubtful. In the US, the 2.8L KJ was only offered with an auto, and the XJ and WK don't have a stick offered at all. IF (and this is a big 'if') DCX found a way to offer a CRD JK here in the States, I think it would only be available with an auto.

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Usually with diesels, you get close to the same highway mileage, however do significantly better locally.
That doesn't sound like any diesel vehicle I've ever been around... in fact that's just the opposite. Diesels generally get better mileage on the highway and worse mileage in town, vs their gasser counterparts.
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Unread 10-06-2006, 03:04 PM   #25
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That doesn't sound like any diesel vehicle I've ever been around... in fact that's just the opposite. Diesels generally get better mileage on the highway and worse mileage in town, vs their gasser counterparts.
Agreed. The only vehicles I've seen give the edge to city driving are hybrids.
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