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Unread 07-29-2013, 07:16 PM   #1
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Need help picking a winch

I need help selecting a winch My jeep is my DD I have the AEV 2.5 dualsport lift kit. and this bumper http://shop.poisonspyder.com/JK-Braw...b.htm?CartID=1

I have never had a winch before but think I will need one just incase to help me out. learn me on winches. help me select a good winch.

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Unread 07-29-2013, 07:29 PM   #2
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This is going to be difficult.. it's almost like a question of "which lift should I go with". IMHO, if you don't plan on using it a lot, don't spend the money for a top of the line one. Some people are brand loyal, and will only stick with Warn as an option. It really depends on what features you want, like wired/wireless remote, metal or synthetic winch cable, pull speed, etc. I would say you would need at least an 8k pound capacity one, although for whatever reason, I "want" a 10k pound one. Perhaps if you describe your normal wheeling environment, others that currently use winches can chip in? (Deep water crossings, mud, steep terrain, etc).
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Unread 07-29-2013, 10:52 PM   #3
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IMHO, the Warn M8000 is the best "value" winch for both performance and cost (at around $550-600). It is practically the same winch as the half-spool 9.0RC "rock crawling" winch that warn sells for $1600 retail... without the red powder coat finish.

Other than that, I'm running the Warn 9.5CTI-S - which is a fast (line speed) winch, lotsa power, and good electric controls. However, it usually costs around $1400-1500.

If you do choose to buy a Warn winch, make sure you look around first. The prices and shipping can vary dramatically from one place to the next. Also, you'll also have to get a fairlead mount.

I have also seen the Superwinch Talon (?) series in action and they serve well. According to articles I have read, they are supposed to be built as good or better than the Warn winches.

As for the rest of the winches available, there are plenty of opinions and I'm sure others will chime in.
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Unread 07-29-2013, 11:03 PM   #4
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I need help selecting a winch My jeep is my DD I have the AEV 2.5 dualsport lift kit. and this bumper http://shop.poisonspyder.com/JK-Braw...b.htm?CartID=1

I have never had a winch before but think I will need one just incase to help me out. learn me on winches. help me select a good winch.
I have the same bumper. If you do the Warn Zeon, you'll also need the base plate that PS makes. Here is a pic of mine (Warn Zeon 10-S). I do a variety of trails from mud to rocks. I attached a few pictures.
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Unread 07-29-2013, 11:11 PM   #5
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Warn, there are no other choices.

M series, CTI, zeon. Do some shopping around, I found my CTI or $1060 out the door.
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Unread 07-29-2013, 11:59 PM   #6
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Warn 9.5 CTI, has good line speeds and high pull rating than most 10k winches with 4 wraps on the spool.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 02:44 AM   #7
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A base model (cheap) winch is just that no mater what name you put on it. I won't buy another base model Warn just to get the name.

I look at waterproofing as an important factor and stick with Super Winch, Ramsey, And Warn.

So far, my Super Winch Talon 12.5 has been a much better winch than the Warn M8000 it replaced and there wasn't that big of a price difference.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 08:42 AM   #8
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I have a Superwinch on my LJ and it has a been a good winch. I was originally going to put the Talon 12.5 on my JK. but when I looked at the specs I ended up with the Warn 9.5CTI. The CTI has a pull of 7400# with 4 warps on the drum and the 12.5 Talon only has a pull of 7100# with 4 wraps on the drum.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 08:53 AM   #9
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I'll go for it. Smittybilt XRC8. I haven't used the current one I have on my JK much but I used my last one on two Jeeps for about 4 years. It pulled over and over, never balked, and never overheated or had a problem with water. I'm sure if you use your winch 50x a day this one wouldn't cut it but I've never had an issue pulling myself, other cars, or stumps/brush out of anywhere. Just remember that Warn isn't made in the USA anymore either.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 10:22 AM   #10
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WARN is tough to beat. Really liking their new Zeon line. And yes, you will need the spacers to mount them on PSC bumpers.

http://www.krawloff-road.com/category_s/1870.htm

Then, if your looking for a great winch but don't want the high price, I would look at ENGO. Great winch for the Money!

http://www.krawloff-road.com/category_s/1848.htm

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Unread 07-30-2013, 11:47 AM   #11
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I have an ENGO 10,000lb with synthetic line, aluminum hawse fairlead and cover on its way to me for $419 to my door (JeepAddOns.com). I have seen good reviews and you can't really beat that price. This will also be my first winch so I might as well learn on something like this and move up to a Warn if need be in the future.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 11:55 AM   #12
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I think it's important to think about your typical use. For me 7 of 10 pulls is using my winch in relatively close quarters to pull myself or another vehicle up a hill or out of a mud hole. This means that the cable is not fully spooled out and I typically do not use a snatch block, but do carry them.

The rated pulling power is with only one wrap of cable on the drum, as the wraps on the drum increase the pulling power decreases. So just comparing the Smitty XRC8 with the Warn 9.5CTI with 4 wraps the Warn can pull 7400# and the Smitty only 5100#. On my heavy JKU this would mean I'd have to use a snatch block with the XRC8 but not the Warn. Only you can answer if the additional cost of the Warn is worth it to you. I use my winch multiple times each trip, so to me the extra pulling power and line speed was worth it.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 12:39 PM   #13
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Look for reviews such as this:

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...t/viewall.html

Decide on your price point versus rating/features and go from there.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 01:05 PM   #14
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I shopped for my first winch based on price, and ended up with the solenoid malfunctioning on pull 1, successful pull 2, failure pulls 3 and 4, and 4 wasn't really a pull...it was the solenoid powering itself on, sucking the hook through the fairlead, and leaving me stranded with no winch.

I won't buy the cheap Chinese **** anymore, don't care how good the deal is.
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Unread 07-30-2013, 01:16 PM   #15
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Decide on your price point versus rating/features and go from there.
Seems backwards to me for something as important as safety and recovery. Decide what you need. If you cannot afford it then save your money until you can and wheel with people who have good winches until then.
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