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Unread 04-12-2014, 07:41 AM   #1
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Need advice,Shop lifted me w a RC 4" now having issues , $1000 in :(

I recently purchased an 07 6 speed JKU sahara. Its very rare that I'm off road, its a DD 99% of the time , so its more for looks. I went to the shop with the intentions of a 2.5 inch BB using stock suspension but some how the guy talked me into a RC 4" lift . It comes with springs shocks and a TrackBar relocation bracket and a few other basic items ( no control arms or sway bar links ). The guy swore up and down that he's done a 100 of these lifts in the area ( well known shop ) and i will have no issues and all necessary items are included.
Well the first day I had major issues with death wobble at 50-60 mph with my lady and 3 yo in the jeep also i notice the shifter shakes like crazy when driving.. Called the next day told him the issue he said i need a steering stabilizer . he took the next day ,installed it and now I'm having the same situation ...

Im now at a $1000 , 350 for install , rest parts ...for something I'm very unhappy with , i feel like its unsafe with my family to drive .. I don't know what the issue is but i just don't want to get stuck paying another install to downgrade and I'm pretty sure I'm screwed on a refund. Any ideas whats causing this . Could it be the fact I'm still on stock tires
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Unread 04-12-2014, 07:51 AM   #2
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Four inch lift and $1,000 don't belong together. Lifting a JK correctly costs about $1K per inch. The shop clearly didn't torque everything correctly. Don't trust a shop who recommends a steering stabilizer to fix death wobble. Read through Planman's thread on death wobble.
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Unread 04-12-2014, 07:55 AM   #3
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Shops install steering stabilizers to HIDE death wobble. You told them you have death wobble, then they should have found the issue and fixed it rather than adding a steering stabilizer. Do not hide the issue, fix it. The shaking is not the shops fault, once you lift a jeep it is a whole different ball game. Having stock tires would have nothing to do with the vibrations. Your jeep is going to vibrate, but if it vibrates in the steering wheel then you need to replace your tie-rods (or sway bar bushings or trac-bar bushings, ect.) because that is a danger to yourself and other drivers. As for the shifter shaking, I have no clue. Sorry I could not help you with everything but, I hope this helps you out.

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Unread 04-12-2014, 08:06 AM   #4
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Steering stablizers are ment to be put on to HIDE death wobble. If you knew you had death wobble, then you should have replaced the tie-rod ends. Do not hide the issue, fix it. The shaking is not the shops fault, once you lift a jeep it is a whole different ball game. Having stock tires would have nothing to do with the vibrations. Your jeep is going to vibrate, but if it vibrates in the steering wheel then you need to replace your tie-rods (or sway bar bushings or trac-bar bushings, ect.) because that is a danger to yourself and other drivers. As for the shifter shaking, I have no clue. Sorry I could not help you with everything but, I hope this helps you out.

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Jim there is more wrong with your post than there is right.
OP the shop that did your install did they explain anything about what you were getting into?
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Unread 04-12-2014, 10:11 AM   #5
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The shifter shaking is probably from the driveshaft. With 4" lift you will need to upgrade both driveshafts. You should ideally get adjustable control arms and other components to make it right...like others said before...remove it all or be prepared to drop another $1500+ into it
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Unread 04-12-2014, 10:29 AM   #6
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I'm having trouble picturing a 4" lift with stock tires.
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Unread 04-12-2014, 10:41 AM   #7
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4" and no adjustable control arms? No adjustable track bar? Still running sock drive shafts?(not that drive shafts would cause death wobble but will open up for other issues). You also said no sway bar links Did they re-use the stock ones WTF? Sounds like you are already balls deep I would do as suggested have it all removed and stock put back on. Maybe keep the kit buy the other necessary components and re install when you have all necessary parts. There is a reason Rough Country lifts are cheap IMO they are Dollar Store quality. Quality kits cost because they have all the components you need for a proper install. Hope you get it straightened out man maybe let the shop drive it I am not to sure how quick I would be to go back to that shop. Also you might give RC a call and talk to a tech there. From what I have heard they have pretty good customer support.

Best of luck let us know what happens.
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WOW, 4" lift at $1000 installed? Lol, you should be running MINIMUM $4000 for parts for a 4" lift alone, buddy. Should have stuck with the 2.5".
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Unread 04-12-2014, 03:33 PM   #9
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Maybe you can work out a trade with them, they install the 2.5 you wanted and they keep the 4" lift no money exchanged.
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Unread 04-12-2014, 03:49 PM   #10
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A 4" lift should include springs, shocks, brake lines or brackets, bump stop extensions, adjustable lower control arms or brackets, longer sway bar end links, typically a flipped drag link and drilled knuckle, track bar relocation brackets, aftermarket driveshafts and more.

If he had installed a bunch without complaints, it is people who a lifted jeep has to drive like crap and shake and vibrate, and wander all over the road. And they probably never leave pavement.
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Unread 04-12-2014, 03:54 PM   #11
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Jesus, something like that isn't even fit on the pavement. $700 plus labor should get you a decent 2.5" lift, go back and get your money back and OE setup, find another shop, buy a 2.5" kit. Don't go back to that bozo again. Actually, post his shop name and we'll splatter it over the net.
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Unread 04-12-2014, 07:21 PM   #12
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Live and learn. My 2.5" Teraflex lift kit (not budget boost) was $1300 installed by a great off-road shop. That kit is hurting your Jeep. Maybe you could find a shop to install a quality 2.5" lift, you sell the 4" lift, and just consider the loss of money as a bad investment. Trust me, I've been down that road with my ZJ.
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Unread 04-13-2014, 04:25 AM   #13
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Education is expensive . I'm reminded every time I pay my property taxes . I would get a second opinion from another local shop .
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Unread 04-13-2014, 09:27 AM   #14
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Well, these guys are all giving you straight dope---

If you're driving that jeep on freeways at posted speeds, you are taking a real chance and if you have insurance--it will probably be cancelled if you have (when) you have mechanical or even fender bender trouble--

Get rid of the lift you have, or add expensive additions to make it safer-

I wouldn't advise advertising the shops name, wish you could, but there's "Internet Liability" that could bite you--

Just fix your jeep and let US RELAX !

Good luck

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Unread 04-13-2014, 01:22 PM   #15
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I'd have them remove the lift and put your vehicle back to stock.
RC lifts are "meh" quality, you're much better off going with a better brand and a smaller lift but still expect it to cost about 2k. a 4" lift on a JK is a really big lift.
If you're just going for looks the BB would have been the way to go.
The shop most certainly did something wrong, deathwobble is not a given and should not simply be accepted or glossed over. It's going to tear up everything else in the front end of the jeep and cause major problems. You're going to end up replacing your entire front end until you find the real problem.
It sucks but you're probably going to have to grow a pair and be a jerk to the shop. You will almost certainly have to threaten legal action to get them to fix their screw up.
Sorry you got into this... No bueno no matter how you look at it.
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