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Unread 10-09-2010, 02:55 PM   #16
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Heh Heh, if that makes you happy--go forit !!


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Unread 10-09-2010, 04:56 PM   #17
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You auto people crack me up. Maybe it's just each person's preference to what they want in a Jeep. If 99% of the time I can pick the right gears for water crossings and mud holes then maybe I just have the slight better understanding of my vehicle. But the auto is a good safety net, you don't have to worry about making the right decision before getting into something. For me I love the control I get from a manual transmission. If Jeep ever gets their crap together and offers a DCT or even a diesel I would gladly go over to an auto for the ease of it. But for the time being I love my manual and love that it makes me think things through before just jumping into something.

EDIT: Sorry if I just called auto people lazy. That's not the point of my post.
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Unread 10-09-2010, 05:14 PM   #18
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You hit the nail on the head--


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You auto people crack me up. Maybe it's just each person preference to what they want in a Jeep. If 99% of the time I can pick the right gears for water crossings and mud holes then maybe I just have the slight better understanding of my vehicle. But the auto is a good safety net, you don't have to worry about making the right decision before getting into something. For me I love the control I get from a manual transmission. If Jeep ever gets their crap together and offers a DCT or even a diesel I would gladly go over to an auto for the ease of it. But for the time being I love my manual and love that it makes me think things through before just jumping into something.

EDIT: Sorry if I just called auto people lazy. That's not the point of my post.
Each person picks their OWN WAY-if they have trouble--thats kinda tough--

I've been driving 4wd's for over 50 years and I've had manuals/autos--I'll never have a manual now--and IT'S MY JEEP !!

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Unread 10-09-2010, 06:38 PM   #19
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You hit the nail on the head--




Each person picks their OWN WAY-if they have trouble--thats kinda tough--

I've been driving 4wd's for over 50 years and I've had manuals/autos--I'll never have a manual now--and IT'S MY JEEP !!

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See being around for 50+ years is hard work so it makes sense to go to the easier type of transmission to drive...
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Unread 10-09-2010, 06:53 PM   #20
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Heh Heh, never mind thats it's superior to the manual in Deep snow/sand/rocks


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See being around for 50+ years is hard work so it makes sense to go to the easier type of transmission to drive...
Yea, 50 years has had a lot of hard work and I've used the manual and auto in Deep snow and rocks--Auto all the way especially in 5 to 10 ft of snow, on SAR missions in the Sierras, so you can just stay fat, dumb and happy with your manual, always question if someone doesn't use whats, YOUR CHOICE !!

I'll bet you have some wheels/tires that everybody MUST use, or your not happy-right ??

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Unread 10-09-2010, 07:11 PM   #21
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I miss the allision from my Duramax. Now that was a sweet auto. I wish you could swap a Duramax into a Jeep. That would be disturbingly awesome.
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Unread 10-09-2010, 07:30 PM   #22
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x2 on the Duramax....great, light weight diesel that is POWERFUL.
I wonder if it would fit in a JK.....

And the mods go on....
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Unread 10-09-2010, 07:30 PM   #23
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Heh Heh, now we're back on the same playing field--


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I miss the allision from my Duramax. Now that was a sweet auto. I wish you could swap a Duramax into a Jeep. That would be disturbingly awesome.
After Dodge Ramchargers/Power Wagons with the A727 AUTO-I was totally destroyed by this JK 42rle Auto, but all the other plus's my JKU Rubi has and the additional cooling modifications I've made to my auto--

It's a real pleasure to tow/drive rocky hills and go thru snow, no matter how deep --

Of course tires and wheels are a very important part of that--








I'll be leaving my place in Nevada, tomorrow morning and it's been FUN, but I'll come back in a week, I'm just waiting for the snow

You have a great Sunday and be careful if you're wheelin !!

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Unread 10-09-2010, 07:35 PM   #24
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How do you push start an automatic?

To each their own. I love you all. I however, like the simplicity, and thus, reliability of a manual.

EDIT: And, you can push more HP to a manual with less modification.
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Unread 10-09-2010, 07:46 PM   #25
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I would of been more likely to pick an auto if it came in a 6spd that comes with the newer trucks. The 4 spd really turned me off and this mini van engine needs all the help it can get. Even back in 07 people could see that the crawl ratio sux on the autos. I really like being able to abuse the tranny and not having to worry about fronting a HUGE bill when replacing it. Clutches are simple to change out and they are much easier to upgrade.
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Unread 10-09-2010, 08:01 PM   #26
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FYI the crawl ratio on the Rubicon, with the 4.10 diff and the NV241 OR Rock-Trac/Xfer case--has the SAME crawl ratio (4lo) of 73/1 manual or auto !!!


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I would of been more likely to pick an auto if it came in a 6spd that comes with the newer trucks. The 4 spd really turned me off and this mini van engine needs all the help it can get. Even back in 07 people could see that the crawl ratio sux on the autos. I really like being able to abuse the tranny and not having to worry about fronting a HUGE bill when replacing it. Clutches are simple to change out and they are much easier to upgrade.
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Unread 10-09-2010, 08:55 PM   #27
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I'm actually looking at upgrading to a 4door JK with an auto eventually for the ease but really have issues with the auto they currently have. Maybe regearing right off the start would make it better for me though...
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Unread 10-09-2010, 09:11 PM   #28
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If you're in 4wd low, and you need to change gears couldn't you just force it into the gear? I know it's not good for it, but it beats blowing up your clutch :x
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Unread 10-09-2010, 09:42 PM   #29
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x2 on the Duramax....great, light weight diesel that is POWERFUL.
I wonder if it would fit in a JK.....

And the mods go on....
I think it would be way way to long to fit into a Jeep.. Maybe an unlimited though..
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Unread 10-09-2010, 09:49 PM   #30
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Autos are easier to wheel, manuals are more fun to drive. They each have there advantages and disadvantages.
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