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Unread 04-24-2010, 07:30 PM   #1
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Largest tire size for stock 2010 Wrangler Sport

I just bought a 2010 Wrangler Sport, with stock tires that suck! I'm looking at NITTO Terrain Grapplers and the current size tire is 255-70/R17. There is a local shop that has these tires in 285-70/R17. Will these fit without having to put in a lift? The guy at the tire place recommended I come here to see if anyone knew for sure? I can get an amazing deal on these tires, and I love them, but I'm not sure if they will rub too much. Please help!

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Unread 04-24-2010, 07:33 PM   #2
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285's are typically marketed as a 33 inch tire. You might have some minor rubbing issues. Most likely when offroading.

Take a look at this thread.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/faq-will-rub-610856/
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Unread 04-24-2010, 07:39 PM   #3
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Thanks. The guy at the tire place thought they would rub a little, but wasnt sure how bad. But let me put it this way...I leased the jeep, and I'm afraid that if it does damage they lease company will charge me? I've never leased a vehicle before, so I dont know what I can and can't do.
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Unread 04-25-2010, 05:06 AM   #4
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A Lease is just a guaranteed trade-in value ASSUMING the vehicle is in reasonable condition... and reasonable is at the discernment of the leasing agency or dealership if you leased through the manufacturer. At any rate, Jeep-type modifications and any kind of trail damage that cannot be easily returned to like-new condition will affect the value at time of return and therefore the hefty payment due when your lease is up. If you run the larger tires and then return to the stock size tires on the vehicle before turning it in, I don't know if the return inspection is even detailed enough to notice a little potential rubbing inside the wheel housings, but that's a risk you'll have to decide if you want to take.

I've personally never leased any vehicle because I know my driving habits and would always go over mileage. Even if I used rental cars on trips and vacations, somehow the mileage limits on leases seem extraordinarily low for me... but I do more than commute daily so maybe it's just a lifestyle thing. My long-term plan is to pay-off my 08 Wrangler and then start doing any major modifications to it in order that I'm not adversely affecting my daily driver until I can replace it. At that time maybe a lease will be practical as I could limit it just to commuting and still drive my upfitted Jeep on the weekends!
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Unread 04-25-2010, 05:30 AM   #5
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you should have no problem. when you go in reverse at full turn they may rub the air dam under front bumper. They may also rub when you flex it on the trails. Other than that you shouldn't have any problems.

These are 285's on 17's
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Unread 04-25-2010, 10:40 AM   #6
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Thanks everyone!!! I'm too excited!

Russ - Your jeep looks amazing with those tires! But did you put a lift on it?
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Unread 04-25-2010, 10:49 AM   #7
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Thanks Jake for all the information. I'm sure I won't be turning in the jeep in three years and keeping it! But just in case....
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Unread 04-25-2010, 11:18 AM   #8
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Thx for the compliment, surprisingly I haven't seen those wheels anywhere else but blackrocks site. I am glad that not many people have them. (I assume because they are alloys would have a lot to do with it)

no I didn't lift it yet.
only mods are those tires and a superchips flashpaq
I am leaning towards a 2 inch coil lift. 3 I think might be a bit much for how I use it.

I would recomend this size since its a lease and the price you are getting.
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Unread 04-25-2010, 09:30 PM   #9
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Well I got the tires! yay! Ill post pics soon!
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Unread 04-26-2010, 06:23 AM   #10
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Leasing a Jeep can't be a good deal.

Leases are calculated off of the residual value. The residual for a Wrangler has to suck which would make the payment as much as buying it.
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Unread 04-26-2010, 12:20 PM   #11
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I leased mine. There's really no difference financially. You're paying for the depreciation one way or another. Buy it and your owned asset depreciates. Lease it and you're paying the depreciation in real time. Interest rates are comparable. I leased mine through a local bank. They view it as a loan of the difference between the residual and the purchase price. It shows up as a loan on a credit report. Can even pay the lease off early, like a loan.

At the end of the lease, I'll either buy the Jeep with cash or trade it in on a new one, depending on how much I love mine vs want a new one.
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Unread 04-26-2010, 12:26 PM   #12
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One note about residual value... The 2010's are essentially the same as 2007's, and there's actual data about what the 2007's are worth when they're 3 years old. So the residual values of the 2010's can be very accurately estimated. It's fairly low risk now to lease a 2010 Jeep and worry about the accuracy of the residual value.

Internal thought - I'm not sure I'm adding any value to this discussion, so I'll shut up now...
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Unread 04-26-2010, 01:05 PM   #13
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Leasing a Jeep can't be a good deal.

Leases are calculated off of the residual value. The residual for a Wrangler has to suck which would make the payment as much as buying it.
Wranglers hold their value extremely well, so the residual value is pretty high. So because the value at the end of the lease is still high, you would pay less to lease it.
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Unread 06-11-2010, 11:45 AM   #14
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Leasing a Jeep can't be a good deal.

Leases are calculated off of the residual value. The residual for a Wrangler has to suck which would make the payment as much as buying it.
2010 X. 3 years. $0 down. $219 month. 15,840 due after lease is up if I want to buy it. I already want to buy it, but didn't know I would be this addicted when I signed.

Darn great lease price, though. With that buyout, it's practically like having no interest for 3 years.
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Unread 06-13-2010, 06:18 AM   #15
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I though Jeeps in general and Wranglers in particular had relatively good residual value and therefore a lease would seem a good deal, at least on the surface.
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