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post #1 of 14 Old 07-31-2010, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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JK starter issue

Ok, I've read a few threads regarding starters, but none seem to have the answer to my problem.

Little over a month ago, I went up to Uwharrie and got the Jeep stuck in a pretty sizeable mud puddle. Then about two weeks later, the Jeep wouldn't start. Pulled fuzes and the cables, and eventually I got it started. Took it to the dealership and they told me they cleaned out the starter because it was full of mud, but if it didn't work again, then it wouldn't be covered under warranty and 350 would get me a new starter.

Well, yesterday it stopped working again. So I am trying to fix it myself. I jacked it up, pulled off the bottom bolt and the heat shield. Come to find that there is still a ton of mud on it and in it, which just pisses me off because now it seems like they didn't do anything.

What is the best way to get to that top bolt for the starter? I am having a hellacious time getting anything in there without pulling off the body. Or is there another way that I can get in to clean it without having to pull it completely off?

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post #2 of 14 Old 07-31-2010, 06:07 PM
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Not quite sure about the bolt but if you donít feel like taking it back to the dealer does it look like you can get a garden hose in there and spray the mud out under pressure?
Whatís the problem anyhow? Is the Jeep just not starting but the starter spins? Do you get a clicking noise when you try to start it? Does nothing at all happen when you turn the key?
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The starter doesn't click at all. Sometimes I get nothing, sometimes I get a weak attempt at a start, but neither one where it leads me to believe that the battery is at fault. I had it tested at AutoZone and the battery and the alternator are good, but it said "starting system failed." The starter gets very hot after only 1 or 2 attempts, so I know it's getting power, but it's not cranking.

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The starter doesn't click at all. Sometimes I get nothing, sometimes I get a weak attempt at a start, but neither one where it leads me to believe that the battery is at fault. I had it tested at AutoZone and the battery and the alternator are good, but it said "starting system failed." The starter gets very hot after only 1 or 2 attempts, so I know it's getting power, but it's not cranking.
I don't own a JK yet, but I had a similar problem with my 1500 Silverado, Like you I went to Autozone and had the same response, turns out the battery was bad after all.

I wish you best of luck with finding a solution, but Don't fully trust the Autozone test. I don't anymore.
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Sounds like thereís a lot of resistance (electrically) and thatís whatís making it hot and not starting. You definitely need to clean out what ever is in there. Hopefully someone will chime in at tell you how to remove it. All though Iíve done my share of replacing starters, Iím not quite sure about the mounting on the JKís. Also check the wiring and connections that is visible now. Anything lose would give the results your experiencing too.
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Finally managed to pull the starter off (needed a little extra leverage on the top bolt). The starter had gotten so much mud and grime in it that it blew some of the wiring in the coil packs and had baked onto the armature and brushes. Tried to solder the broken connection, but no joy. Believe the clay is too much to overcome...new starter is already on the way.

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I put a 80ftlb air ratchet on it (top bolt) but doesn't work... What else can I do?
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post #8 of 14 Old 11-22-2014, 11:17 PM
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It shouldn't be that hard to do the top bolt. If I remember right, it is tight space and a good fine click ratchet is helpful. I have a long handle ratchet to break it loose and then the air ratchet saves some time getting the overly long bolt out.

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Most dealerships walk away if they think you buried it.
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I tried last night with a fine ratchet, still can't get room to rotate it.
I thought about disconnecting the front shaft to get more room.
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I have done it three times so I know it is possible to do without anything special. If you put an extension on it can you get to where there is a little more room?
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post #12 of 14 Old 11-25-2014, 11:03 AM
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I have an automatic, is it any different in manuals? O used Extensions, U-boat. I get to it, just can't spin the ratchet enough.
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post #13 of 14 Old 11-25-2014, 11:19 AM
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Mine is an auto. I remember it being tedious but not that bad, especially compared to the top two bolts connecting the trans to the engine, those are tough ones to get to.
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Paid a mechanic to replace it. So far so good, waiting for colder days.
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