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post #1 of 16 Old 12-03-2009, 09:44 AM Thread Starter
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Jk Rubicon 4:10 gears vs. 1974 Chevy 4:10 gears (pics)

I just happen to have both of these sets of gears laying here so I thought I would take some pictures for you guys.

(ignore the blue towel, my workbench is black so the pics of the black gears would be harder to see).

The left is a front 4:10 from a 2008 Rubicon. The right is a 4:10 from a 1974 Chevy 3/4 truck. Both front axles.
(and the dog fur is wolf hybrid, not cracks in the gears)









Ring gear bolts.




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So are the good? They look the same

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Well the JK uses a "thick" designed ring gear and the old skool your showing is a reg ring gear.

to honestly put apples to apples, you should have found a "thick" d44 ring gear to put it against.

But all in all, yes the JK D44 is a bit more brawn. not significantly but some..

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to honestly put apples to apples, you should have found a "thick" d44 ring gear to put it against.
There is no old school "thick" 4:10

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There is no old school "thick" 4:10
Sure there is. ANY rubicon D44 TJ gear is a typ D44 RG that is "thick" and fits ANY d44 LP 3.73 and dn carrier. Hence thick 4.10 ratio RG.

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Sure there is. ANY rubicon D44 TJ gear is a typ D44 RG that is "thick" and fits ANY d44 LP 3.73 and dn carrier. Hence thick 4.10 ratio RG.
I would not consider 2003+ "old school"

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I would not consider 2003+ "old school"
Well there were a few factory's that did offer a thick D44 RG prior to 1997 for sure. It was more common to do a ring gear spacer though, back in the 80's and 90's. We sold many of them at Super Shops back then. But a few companys did offer a thick design way prior to 2003 though.

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Ring gear spacers were a way to get around the carrier break for gear ratios. Use a deep carrier LSD but have a high ratio gear set. Cheaper to use a spacer.

The ring gear here is only part of the story anyway. The thickness of the pinion shaft and the size of the bearings (not pictured) is a massive difference.

Put them all toghether and you get one stout axle compared to what we used to consider "3/4 ton stuff" in an old truck.

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Ring gear spacers were a way to get around the carrier break for gear ratios. Use a deep carrier LSD but have a high ratio gear set. Cheaper to use a spacer.
Yep or a thick set...
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The ring gear here is only part of the story anyway. The thickness of the pinion shaft and the size of the bearings (not pictured) is a massive difference.

Put them all toghether and you get one stout axle compared to what we used to consider "3/4 ton stuff" in an old truck.

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My question is what caused the D44 gears to be liberated from the 2008 ruby?

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