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post #1 of 59 Old 09-20-2011, 03:01 PM Thread Starter
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JK diesel swap endeavor

Ok,
guys its been a while I have quietly been doing the leg work to put together a sort of plug and play diesel swap option for my fellow JK'ers.

Progress I have made so far:
sourced an ordering source for the necessary parts from overseas. I am currently working with my source to create a e-catalog. The plan is I will be able to drop ship all the factory OEM parts to your door to allow you to nestle a 2.8 CRD into your engine bay making it look like it rolled of the assembly line.

Now here is the BIG BUT...I need to gauge interest in this project i.e how many of you truly want stump pulling oil burning power? I have yet to get a solid cost projection but it should come in some where equal to the hemi swap (kits)

The reason for gauging interest is my source and I may have to actually have some parts machined and or produced via a mold since they are not available.

So please feel free to leave some positive feed back.

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post #2 of 59 Old 09-20-2011, 03:07 PM
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You've got my attention, I've had my eyes on getting a game plan of dragging a wreck in from overseas. But if you're able to get a plug in play setup with a 2.8 CRD (Motori), I'm all in.
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You've got my attention, I've had my eyes on getting a game plan of dragging a wreck in from overseas. But if you're able to get a plug in play setup with a 2.8 CRD (Motori), I'm all in.
so my very simple plan was well they already put this engine in the wrangler so if I can get my self incontact with a source to order all the parts one would need to do the install i.e. radiator, motor mounts, diesel fuel tank, all of which being OEM jeep parts then we are in business!! I now have that source I also have sourced the first 2.8 CRD (motori) it is complete and ready to drop in! we will need a guinea pig though
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Just my two cents on the advantage with going with a 2.8L CRD vs other Diesel swaps .

The other diesel swap options all require different transmissions. So to do those particular swaps you're having to swap the engine and trans which make the cost of diesel swap almost as much as a Hemi swap.

The 2.8L bolts right up to the existing trans, so it makes a diesel swap much more affordable.
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Just my two cents on the advantage with going with a 2.8L CRD vs other Diesel swaps .

The other diesel swap options all require different transmissions. So to do those particular swaps you're having to swap the engine and trans which make the cost of diesel swap almost as much as a Hemi swap.

The 2.8L bolts right up to the existing trans, so it makes a diesel swap much more affordable.
oh I agree hence why i am going to offering a complete plug and play kit.

so that being said who wants to start the project??
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post #6 of 59 Old 09-20-2011, 03:23 PM
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Just my two cents on the advantage with going with a 2.8L CRD vs other Diesel swaps .

The other diesel swap options all require different transmissions. So to do those particular swaps you're having to swap the engine and trans which make the cost of diesel swap almost as much as a Hemi swap.

The 2.8L bolts right up to the existing trans, so it makes a diesel swap much more affordable.
The 2.8 will destroy the 42RLE auto trans and will also destroy the 6-speed manual unless you detune the engine like they do from the factory to make the manual live.

The biggest downfall of the 2.8 is the timing belt and severe lack of parts in the US and techs that know anything about those engines.About $7000 for just the engine brand new.

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The 2.8 will destroy the 42RLE auto trans and will also destroy the 6-speed manual unless you detune the engine like they do from the factory to make the manual live.

The biggest downfall of the 2.8 is the timing belt and severe lack of parts in the US and techs that know anything about those engines.About $7000 for just the engine brand new.
The engine runs the same tranny's as far as tunning that will not be a problem since we will be using the OEM ECU that will tell the engine what tranny and program to run! also there are plenty of chrysler tech's that are certified for this engine as it came in two different model's here in the U.S...as for the severe lack of parts available in the U.S that is where I come in the website I am building will make available all the 2.8 parts...this is our first ever option for easy access to a plug n play diesel solution for the JK's
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The engine runs the same tranny's as far as tunning that will not be a problem since we will be using the OEM ECU that will tell the engine what tranny and program to run! also there are plenty of chrysler tech's that are certified for this engine as it came in two different model's here in the U.S...as for the severe lack of parts available in the U.S that is where I come in the website I am building will make available all the 2.8 parts...this is our first ever option for easy access to a plug n play diesel solution for the JK's
OEM tuning is different between the auto trans and manual trans and reducing the torque by 50+lbs-ft for the manual trans and the auto trans is the 545RFE and not the 42RLE.There was only 1 vehicle sold in the US with the 2.8 and that was the '05 and '06 Jeep Liberty and the problems with those is staggering as alot of them are on there 2nd engine before 150k,some don't even make it to the 100k timing belt change before needing a new head or engine.The dealership training for the 2.8 CRD was a 10min video,you need to find a Sprinter tech and they may have some knowledge about the 2.8.

Some reading about the fine 2.8.........

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=5

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so my very simple plan was well they already put this engine in the wrangler so if I can get my self incontact with a source to order all the parts one would need to do the install i.e. radiator, motor mounts, diesel fuel tank, all of which being OEM jeep parts then we are in business!! I now have that source I also have sourced the first 2.8 CRD (motori) it is complete and ready to drop in! we will need a guinea pig though
Id love to be the guinea pig, however its quite a drive to nh from ok.
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Sounds interesting, but not sure about the cost. Would love the export 3.0lt Grand Cherokee diesel engine in a JK

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Sounds interesting, but not sure about the cost. Would love the export 3.0lt Grand Cherokee diesel engine in a JK
fern I have a Chrysler tech friend of mine doing research on that I would love that my self but I am focused on making the 2.8 CRD a viable option and then I will expand the kits!!
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Id love to be the guinea pig, however its quite a drive to nh from ok.
Tavic,
PM maybe we can work something out the first person to be the guinea pig pays invoice nothing more. I have a technical writer that will need to follow the install so we can have the detailed directions for the shade tree mechanic type

also im no longer NH im Located in Boston
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what kind of price tag are you looking at? I have the River Raider 4BT swap on my long wish list but at $9800 for the swap kit alone, plus at least $2000 for a motor (more if it is from a high mileage vehicle and/or tricking it out) it is quite far down.
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what kind of price tag are you looking at? I have the River Raider 4BT swap on my long wish list but at $9800 for the swap kit alone, plus at least $2000 for a motor (more if it is from a high mileage vehicle and/or tricking it out) it is quite far down.
You forgot that a transmission will be needed for 4BT swap as well, which is why I decided to opt out on it.
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You forgot that a transmission will be needed for 4BT swap as well, which is why I decided to opt out on it.
Yeah, that too. Another what $1,500-2,500?
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