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Unread 12-04-2012, 06:33 AM   #16
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What does the linkage look like? Does the shifter physically go into the transmission from above? Everything I've had (even RWD) has been linkage down the side of the housing, not directly into it.
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pressing in the clutch stops the noise also. Could it still be a linkage problem?
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Sorry, that was actually just me being curious, my JK is an auto.

I can't think of anything in common between the clutch system and the shifter that could cause this. Maybe there's a vibration in the input shaft/pressure plate/bearings that's making the linkage squeak...I'm really reaching here. But if the shifter doesn't go directly into the transmission case I really can't explain how pushing on it does anything.
FYI, there is no shifter linkage for the transmission.
The physical shifter goes straight down into the transmission.

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Unread 12-04-2012, 08:49 AM   #17
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If you think about a manual transmission mechanically, different things are happening when clutch is in versus released, so therefore it's obviously going to sound different.

My 2012 6 speed sounds the same, and I believe it to be normal.

The 2012 6 speed that I test drove before I bought mine sounded the same as well.

The previous TJ's I've had also sounded this way.

So did my YJ.

Start the engine, tranny in neutral, clutch out, and turn your AC on(so the compressor runs).
That noise get's louder, doesn't it?
Normal.

Start the engine, tranny in neutral, clutch out, push up on shifter and it stops(yes, I know you covered this already...just follow me). Normal.
Start the engine, tranny in neutral, clutch out, BE IN LOW RANGE, push up on shifter and your Jeep will creep forward. Normal.

It's normal. Every one does it.
If you say yours doesn't, come to Columbus Ohio and let me listen.
If it doesn't do it, I'll pay your Jeep off.
I understand it is normal for it to rattle. However, my concern is how loud it gets at times. It's is a quite rattle most of the time. Then I stop and it sounds like a power stroke diesel is under me
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Unread 12-04-2012, 09:02 AM   #18
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Sounds normal to me. Mine sounds the same way, so did my 06 TJ

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Unread 12-04-2012, 09:08 AM   #19
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FYI, there is no shifter linkage for the transmission.
The physical shifter goes straight down into the transmission.
Ok, thanks. It seems like that should make this easier to figure out, if he can push down and there's a change.
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Unread 12-04-2012, 09:20 AM   #20
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There is a shift fork within the transmission - is that technically a linkage?

After destroying several Jeep manuals in my past, a noise like that - even if it's normal - would bother me.
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Unread 12-04-2012, 10:50 AM   #21
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The linkage I was talking about would be for the shifter itself, not the clutch.

This is what the linkage looks like on my Muncie:


Well, that's what it looks like under 10 lbs of grime and crud.
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Unread 12-04-2012, 03:07 PM   #22
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the 6 speed is a top loader, it doesnt have linkage like that. the shifter connects directly to the rails on the inside of the gearbox

i'll reiterate what i said before. the noise is completely normal.
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Unread 12-04-2012, 03:45 PM   #23
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If I were you I would take it to a transmission shop other than a dealer and let them have a listen. It wonít cost you a dime and youíll have a second opinion from someone other than a sometimes less than par dealership.

Listening from a YouTube on the computer is not really the best way to convey how you trans actually sounds. There very well could be something wrong. Get that second opinion.
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Unread 12-04-2012, 08:50 PM   #24
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If I were you I would take it to a transmission shop other than a dealer and let them have a listen. It wonít cost you a dime and youíll have a second opinion from someone other than a sometimes less than par dealership.

Listening from a YouTube on the computer is not really the best way to convey how you trans actually sounds. There very well could be something wrong. Get that second opinion.
didnt think about that. Totally going to do. My buddies dad owns one in town.When I finally get another day off of work i'll have to swing it by there
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Unread 12-05-2012, 02:34 AM   #25
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^^^Thatís even better when you know the person who owns the shop, good luck.
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Unread 12-05-2012, 03:28 PM   #26
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pressing in the clutch stops the noise also. Could it still be a linkage problem?
Just a guess but I think they are going to replace the throw out bearing.

Here is a Youtube video of the typical noise observed:

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Unread 12-05-2012, 03:34 PM   #27
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A friend of mine bought a '12 2door Rubicon on pre-order before they were released last year and his had an AC problem. I'm not sure of the specifics, but it ended up spending it's first few days at the local dealership getting fixed. I'll ask what his problem was to see if it was the same issue.
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Unread 12-05-2012, 08:53 PM   #28
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Just a guess but I think they are going to replace the throw out bearing...
They did that with the NV3550 on my TJ and it doesnít help, the problem is with the Trans.
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Unread 12-06-2012, 06:30 AM   #29
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They did that with the NV3550 on my TJ and it doesnít help, the problem is with the Trans.
The question is: Is it a problem, or just a normal noise.... ?
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Unread 12-06-2012, 02:41 PM   #30
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The question is: Is it a problem, or just a normal noise.... ?
Itís a normal noise (from what Iíve read) for that transmission (NV3550) which by the way is very stout but as far as Iím concerned itís not normal to me. It never had that noise when it was new and it was embarrassing whenever I would pull into a gas station or 7/11 store after a long day of wheeling. The rattling was very loud.
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