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Unread 02-05-2013, 06:28 AM   #1
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Issues mounting ACE stubby bumper on 2008 JKUR

So I just got my ACE stubby bumper with bull bar. Went on easy, had to trim the "crash bar" at the frame rails, but that was it. One issue, I can't get 2 of the bolts(inside ones closest to the fog lights on the passenger side) because the sway bar auto disco motor is in the way? anyone have any suggestions?

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Unread 02-05-2013, 06:47 AM   #2
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Yup they are a nightmare to get your hand and some type of tool on it to hold nut while someone else tightens.

If they still supply lock washer you can try using a good impact gun that may tighten them up to the point interior nut doesnt spin.

I did mine manually with a buddy, wasnt easy in fact my hand got stuck and had to relax a while to get it out. Think i used a open end wrench on one and socket universal extension on the other to hold the nuts.
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Unread 02-05-2013, 07:21 AM   #3
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marmo, do you have a rubicon?
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Unread 02-05-2013, 09:01 AM   #4
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So I just got my ACE stubby bumper with bull bar. Went on easy, had to trim the "crash bar" at the frame rails, but that was it. One issue, I can't get 2 of the bolts(inside ones closest to the fog lights on the passenger side) because the sway bar auto disco motor is in the way? anyone have any suggestions?
Is their bolt "captured"...meaning, is the bolt through the mounting hole and you can't reach it for a nut, or you can't get the bolt through the frame mounting holes ? Sorry..not familiar with how theirs is mounted....
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Unread 02-05-2013, 09:30 AM   #5
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nope, it mounts the front frame horns. I'm probably going to remove the "compatibility bar" that cheap *** piece of metal that goes between the 2 frame rails, that will give me a little more room.
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Unread 02-05-2013, 09:58 AM   #6
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Ok...just looked on their site to see the bumper.

This is similar to one of ours I installed on a rubi. If I recall, I used a long 6" or 12" extention, don't recall with the nut inside the socket. If you find yourself loosing the nut before you get to the bolt, put a little axle grease (thick stuff) inside the socket and then put the nut in. It will hold the nut long enough to get it to the bolt. If your simply having trouble getting the bolt in through the frame hole at all....I suggest putting those two in first loose and then the others. Sometimes, even though everything is usually plasma or laser cut, the welding process moves things ever so slightly...

Another option is to remove the two bolts on each side holding the sway bar. This will allow the motor assembly to drop slightly enough to get it out of the way. Hope that helps !
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Unread 02-05-2013, 10:04 AM   #7
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thanks for the tips TS! It's a little bit of a dilemma, the bolts slide in fine from the front, but i can't access the back of it. I'm going to cut out the compatibility bar, that should get me a little space, but honestly the housing for the sway bar disco sits right on the inside of the bumper(acts as a skid) going to be a pain, but i'm sure i'll get it eventually
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Unread 02-05-2013, 10:25 AM   #8
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thanks for the tips TS! It's a little bit of a dilemma, the bolts slide in fine from the front, but i can't access the back of it. I'm going to cut out the compatibility bar, that should get me a little space, but honestly the housing for the sway bar disco sits right on the inside of the bumper(acts as a skid) going to be a pain, but i'm sure i'll get it eventually
I would also suggest a "wobble" socket or extention. This allows the socket to still set even if off center. Good luck on the install sir.
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Unread 02-05-2013, 10:47 AM   #9
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Looks kinda funny even thou it's on there tight as hell. Getting my ace fenders tmrw. Gonna give it another shot
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Unread 02-05-2013, 12:56 PM   #10
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Yes mines a Rubi with electro disco motor, i didnt cut anything out. I do have small hands and forearms though. A bigger guy i could see it being nearly impossible to get hands in there.

Use extensions and universal ( wobble, lol) with grease inside the socket, get nut started on bolt then try using a good impact gun. Lock washer should lock in the nut to allow impact to tighten
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I have the ACE rock rails and love em. How much for the bumper??
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thnx for the tip. my bumper is coming tomorrow.
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So I just got my ACE stubby bumper with bull bar. Went on easy, had to trim the "crash bar" at the frame rails, but that was it. One issue, I can't get 2 of the bolts(inside ones closest to the fog lights on the passenger side) because the sway bar auto disco motor is in the way? anyone have any suggestions?
I've had the same issue each of the three times that I've installed (and re-installed my Rugged Ridge bumper. I decided next time I take it off I'm going to have someone tack-weld the bolts to the back of the frame so I don't have to bother with getting back there ever again.

The trick I found was using a 3" extension, a wobble joint, then a 6" extension, another wobble joint, and then my ratchet. I also had to make sure it was a deep socket that I was using to hold the nut.
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Unread 02-06-2013, 07:17 AM   #14
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aftahour, you're gonna have to cut the compatibility bar, at least the ends of it flush with the frame rails, i'm most likely going to remove the bumper, completely remove the compatibility bar to give me a little extra wiggle room. As long as you don't have a rubicon the install should go fairly smoothly
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Thanks guys just put it on my 11 jku. No trimming anything. Only issue one bolt didn't line up. Had to drill grind the crash bar little bit. Then impact the hell out of all the bolts thnx for the tips guys. Ps small hands long ext. impact and drill. Helps
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