Originally Posted by Karamba
They also get a rather good and relatively cheap public transportation system. I would not mind geeting to work on a train, or a bus, or metro, but there is no such possibility around here.
That's total and utter crap, the public transport here is at best pretty ****e and that's only in London.
It isn't cheap and it isn't good!!!!
As for all you diesel haters you really are being very stereotypical and quite evidently have no idea about diesel engines.
1. They are not smelly or noisey.
MOST 4x4's and many cars sold in the UK are diesels, infact the diesel is so popular here in the Discovery 3 (LR3) that next year the V8 is being discontinued.
2. Diesels are very reliable and is partly why they are the mainstay of most military vehicles. The Defender still uses the 300Tdi unit which was the main production engine in the mid/late 90's for Land Rover. This is because it is reliable and economical.
3. Power, diesel technology has imporved allowing much more power. My 2.5 litre 200Tdi in my Discovery not only produces more torque than a 4.0 Rover V8 but also makes the vehicle faster yet still retains 24-26mpg even running 33" off road tyres and having modified the engine. A V8 on normal road tyres will be getting 14-16mpg.
If you don't want a diesel - no problem. But don't shun them when you haven't a frigging clue of their benefits and abilities. Even more so if you've never owned one.
BTW - my chioce of engine in the JK would be a diesel. The 3.0 CRD offered here in other DC vehicles would be ideal as even in stock form it produces more HP/torque than the 3.8 V8.
Sadly it's the 2.8 CRD we are getting with 174bhp but it still has more torque than the 3.8 V6 and should be returning 28-32mpg+
Also with a few tweaks it will easily out perform in the 3.8 in the power depeartment.