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11-17-2010, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CTJeepWJ
ok, I watched the video a couple of times. It looks like the first puddle was the culprit (IMO). It looks like you hit it way too fast. So have you or the dealership had a chance to look into it? I would be really surprised if you actually did a large amount of internal damage. Like others mentioned, if it truly was "hydroLOCKED", you wouldn't even be able to try to crank it over. It is possible that you have a wet air filter that is choking out the air flow or that you got some sort of electrical component wet that shorted out. Possibly in or around your coil pack.
So have you heard anything from the dealership? Did you open up your air box to take a look inside?
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Without knowing what damage was found, this is hard to say. It only takes a small amount of water to cause a rod, valve, or other internal part to bend. It doesn't need to break to cause the death of an engine. A little water can cause the piston to get ****eyed in the cylinder, causing a scar in the wall. Once this happens, the death of the engine is just a matter of time. Of course, the OP would be happy if his engine isn't damaged.....
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11-17-2010, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tjkj2002
No,that would be a waste of time and money as I could fix it myself for far less then my $250 deductable.
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Way to side step the point! 
To the OP ... good luck, friend. 
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11-17-2010, 04:00 PM
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I would have never shown that video to the service manager at a Jeep dealership.
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11-17-2010, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BLK2000TJ
I would have never shown that video to the service manager at a Jeep dealership.
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+1000
You hit that puddle waaaaaay to fast.
Sorry bout your luck bro.
But on the bright side...you did successfully test the Jeeps limits! 
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11-17-2010, 05:45 PM
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We were discussing this issue on another forum and wonder if the airbox placement on the JK is just enough forward from where the airbox is on a TJ that it causes a problem. Now keep in mind, none of us own a JK, so we are using a photo of the JK engine compartment for the basis of our discussion. Where is the opening in the JK airbox?
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11-17-2010, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by little_Jeep
Where is the opening in the JK airbox?
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pretty much right under the passenger hood latch. the stock opening is shaped to match the contour of the hood in that area.
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11-17-2010, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skivviss
pretty much right under the passenger hood latch. the stock opening is shaped to match the contour of the hood in that area.
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So in your opinion, does its placement make getting water inside the airbox easier, harder, or about the same as a TJ? Is it possible that water is hitting fan, fan is tossing water onto bottomside of hood then running in the airbox, or do you feel problems are generally caused by other factors?
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11-17-2010, 06:19 PM
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Time for a hemi swap.
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11-17-2010, 06:23 PM
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Reading this thread I'm thinking I was lucky on the day that my avatar pic was taken!
(and by the way that was at the Jeep Owners playground on the rocks and road tour)
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11-17-2010, 07:38 PM
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I was just on Jeep's website again, the promo video that they play when you click on the "capability" link shows several Jeeps throwing the exact same amount of water, if not more, over, and over again...
Might be a little ammo if someone were to screencap it, or link to it.
Not sure how long this link it going to be good, but here it is..
http://www.jeep.com/en/jeep_capabilities/trail_rated/
Please explain to me what part of that is as slow as possible, but as fast as neccesary? I call BS.
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11-17-2010, 08:01 PM
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i just watched the vid, idk that seems like the jk should be fine, i got a 4cyl yj and i blast through water up to my bumper at easily twice that fast and have never had issues
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11-17-2010, 08:04 PM
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Yes, but the point is that his JK is not fine and that the dealer is refusing to warrant it.... Maybe they should watch their own promo vids...
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11-17-2010, 08:16 PM
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I can not believe that your jeep died doing that. It didn't even look close to being too fast to me. I've seen way worse entries, in way deeper water. I agree, the jeep commercials show a bigger splash. Good luck getting it fixed.
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11-17-2010, 09:05 PM
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I was thinking I was not going too fast either. I am dealing with the insurance agency right now and discussing a Hemi swap. I'm also talking to a local shop that can do it to get a price quote. AEV is wanting 23K after I ship it to them. I can't quite justify that. I am going to go to the dealer once more with some of the videos they show and present my case one more time. After that I guess the only thing I can do, besides contact the main offices is to help out other people to avoid this exact thing from happening to them.
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11-17-2010, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JKTester
I was thinking I was not going too fast either. I am dealing with the insurance agency right now and discussing a Hemi swap. I'm also talking to a local shop that can do it to get a price quote. AEV is wanting 23K after I ship it to them. I can't quite justify that. I am going to go to the dealer once more with some of the videos they show and present my case one more time. After that I guess the only thing I can do, besides contact the main offices is to help out other people to avoid this exact thing from happening to them.
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You could try another dealer too. A second opinion on what's wrong with it is not a bad idea.
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Hydrolocked my engine with dealer plates still on...
