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Unread 11-15-2010, 04:36 PM   #16
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This is so strange. I am sorry to hear about your JK, but am alarmed to hear that this may be a problem with the JK. I have splashed around in it a few times, and have discovered SOME water and dirt in the airbox, but hardly anything (liquid wise) on the filter and nothing past it. I just pull the box and clean it in the sink each time and replace the cotton filter. I usually keep one with me in case it gets soaked. Are you sure that it Hydrolocked? It wasn't just a soaked filter? If the cotton filter becomes saturated, it will completely block airflow to the engine, killing it and preventing it from starting.

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Unread 11-15-2010, 05:37 PM   #17
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The Jeep website "4 wheeling basics" say to avoid pushing a wake....so, slow and steady....
You mean i can't go wakeboarding with my Jeep
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Unread 11-15-2010, 05:48 PM   #18
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Apparently not.... Stupid manufacturers....no fun.
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Unread 11-15-2010, 08:29 PM   #19
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Damn. A week after I got my Rubi I had water splash over the hood and was 1/3 up the door. I could hear the fan hitting the water. No stutter. no stall. Just kept going. But I didn't was crawling, not blasting through the water.
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Unread 11-15-2010, 09:53 PM   #20
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The Jeep website "4 wheeling basics" say to avoid pushing a wake....so, slow and steady....
I always thought you were supposed to push a small wake?
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Unread 11-15-2010, 10:04 PM   #21
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I always thought you were supposed to push a small wake?
Small,as in 5mph sized,not 30+mph sized wake.
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Unread 11-15-2010, 10:12 PM   #22
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I think stock JK's are rated for 30" of water crossing. Correct me if I am wrong.
Where did the water get in if you weren't in water that deep and you weren't speeding?
Not at 50 mph though like people seem to think cause they want a splash
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Unread 11-15-2010, 10:16 PM   #23
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So here's my story. I was out playing around in puddles...really nothing big at all. On my way out I made one final run, a little water splashed on the hook and the engine died. I still have the dealer plates on her and they towed me, after my friends got me out of the water, to the dealership. I've read some of the threads and seen some people say that it was covered by Jeep for the repairs. I have a video of my final death run and it shows I was not exceeding the limits of "the most capable offroad vehicle". She's a stock JK Rubi and can climb anything I point her at...water seems to be an issue. I would love to hear any thoughts on this, what it could be, best wat to prevent it (what is the best snorkel?) and if anyone has had this happen and had it covered by warranty I'd really love to hear from you so I can have a little ammo when I go in to fight them.
All you really need to know is that they advertise water fording capability. Some lawyers can sue them for false advertising. I have seen it happen with a few land rovers and LR upgraded clients to the tricked out model version free of charge. Go to court and they loose.

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"Hit that riverbed with confidence. Trail Rated® Jeep® 4x4s feature additional electrical and body sealing, along with a high air intake location for optimum water fording capability. Note: Do not attempt water fording unless depth is known to be less than 19 inches."
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Unread 11-15-2010, 10:23 PM   #24
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Unread 11-15-2010, 10:28 PM   #25
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This is so strange. I am sorry to hear about your JK, but am alarmed to hear that this may be a problem with the JK. I have splashed around in it a few times, and have discovered SOME water and dirt in the airbox, but hardly anything (liquid wise) on the filter and nothing past it. I just pull the box and clean it in the sink each time and replace the cotton filter. I usually keep one with me in case it gets soaked. Are you sure that it Hydrolocked? It wasn't just a soaked filter? If the cotton filter becomes saturated, it will completely block airflow to the engine, killing it and preventing it from starting.
They have the the air intake right UNDER the edge of the hood where water would naturally drain form the hood. Completely insane!
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Unread 11-15-2010, 10:56 PM   #26
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So here's my story. I was out playing around in puddles...really nothing big at all. On my way out I made one final run, a little water splashed on the hook and the engine died. I still have the dealer plates on her and they towed me, after my friends got me out of the water, to the dealership. I've read some of the threads and seen some people say that it was covered by Jeep for the repairs. I have a video of my final death run and it shows I was not exceeding the limits of "the most capable offroad vehicle". She's a stock JK Rubi and can climb anything I point her at...water seems to be an issue. I would love to hear any thoughts on this, what it could be, best wat to prevent it (what is the best snorkel?) and if anyone has had this happen and had it covered by warranty I'd really love to hear from you so I can have a little ammo when I go in to fight them.
Have fun with that.

The warranty section of your owners manual reads they will cover repairs to covered parts due to "defects in materials or worksmanship".


Getting water in your engine from an outside source is not a defect in materials or worksmanship.

Have fun buying a new engine.

The only ways a hydrolocked engine would be covered by warranty is if you had a intake or head gasket leak coolant into the cylinders, or a head or block crack allowing coolant into the cylinders thus allowing the engine to hydrolock. This would be a defect in materials or worksmanship.
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Unread 11-15-2010, 10:57 PM   #27
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I doubt it will be covered under warranty. Mine sure wasn't and I was only in maybe 12" of water or so. Wasn't even driving that fast at all either for mine. Just grenaded somehow I really can't explain it. My isurance sure stepped in to help thanks god. just over $9,000 to have it replaced.
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Unread 11-15-2010, 11:14 PM   #28
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That totally Sucks! I think I may be looking for a Snorkel for mine sooner than later.

I would not post that video until you have this settled. Even then... Service advisors and insurance adjusters watch You-Tube as well.

First shot is take it to the dealer be cool about it and just explain that you were crossing shallow water at a prudent speed, figure 10 mph tops and it just died suddenly. Just don't be too shocked if they tell you to file a claim with your insurance.

The problem is that time is one their side. Unless you are prepared to have the Jeep fixed out of your own pocket then file a claim first against Jeep & second against your insurance, Option 2 park it in the driveway for months while you argue your case.

Best bet is to go in tomorrow and plead your case but be prepared to call insurance and file it as damages just like any other accident.

Personally I would omit the details of how it happened... hit a puddle on a dirt road and it died, end of story.
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Unread 11-15-2010, 11:22 PM   #29
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The Jeep website "4 wheeling basics" say to avoid pushing a wake....so, slow and steady....
Slow and steady just like in this Jeep commercial?

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Unread 11-15-2010, 11:52 PM   #30
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I used to use my jeep liberty like a jet-ski when we were hitting big puddles and I had never had the thing hyro lock. I wonder if I should be more worried about my wrangler
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