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Unread 10-31-2013, 07:44 PM   #301
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This is my 8th Jeep, and the quality is FAR better than any of the others. And FAR better than the toyota fj cruiser my buddy had. In fact, after he drove my '13, he immediatly traded that heap in on a Rubicon for himself. First American vehicle he has had in 15 years, and now he knows the truth...jap crap isn't all it's cracked up to be. He is now trading his Wifes' camry for a 2014 Grand Cherokee.

I love it when people see the light, and quit being brainless sheep.
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Unread 10-31-2013, 08:06 PM   #302
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With frame rot, terrible electronics, and some of the worst styling in the first world, Toyota's starting to earn that reputation even if they somehow avoid the publicity.
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Unread 10-31-2013, 08:58 PM   #303
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2013 unlimited sport, 3886 miles and the CEL lights up, the ECO light goes off. I was cruising steady state on the highway at 70 mph when the CEL decides to show up. Code is P0441 - Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow, my uneducated guess will be a bad solenoid not opening. Goes in at 8am tomorrow for repairs, Jeep has been flawless until yesterday.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 06:04 AM   #304
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[QUOTE=mightydog78;16899145]Pentastar is an excellent engine, hands down.[/QUOTE

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Unread 11-01-2013, 07:39 AM   #305
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Unread 11-01-2013, 08:57 AM   #306
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My 03 ford f150 work truck has 207k and is still on the original water pump,alternator, and starter. Beat that jeep lol.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 09:31 AM   #307
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My 03 ford f150 work truck has 207k and is still on the original water pump,alternator, and starter. Beat that jeep lol.
Yeah I find it hilarious (ok sad since I have a new one) that people are proud that a brand new jeep has been trouble free for a year or two.

I've had so many fords with well over 100k miles basically trouble free. Just brakes clutches and ball joints etc that I wore out. So far, based on mileage I would say my jeep is the most problematic vehicle I've owned! Lol
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Unread 11-01-2013, 09:51 AM   #308
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Unread 11-01-2013, 10:21 AM   #309
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Yea it will be sometime until the 3.6L really becomes a worthy engine. Who knows Chrysler might ditch it for the next redesign if things don't change. I have talked to some with even early 14s that have the tick and have had to have the head replaced to fix it.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #310
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Yeah I find it hilarious (ok sad since I have a new one) that people are proud that a brand new jeep has been trouble free for a year or two.

I've had so many fords with well over 100k miles basically trouble free. Just brakes clutches and ball joints etc that I wore out. So far, based on mileage I would say my jeep is the most problematic vehicle I've owned! Lol
My buddy had to lemon law his '12 F-150 after getting about 8 months of run-around from multiple dealers and corporate because he had the balls to move to another state after his purchase (he's military). Both loaner trucks the "new" dealer gave him while trying to fix his POS broke down repeatedly and actually left him stranded about 90 miles from anywhere...in Alaska.

I've had 2 good Fords and one POS. I'm over 30k miles with zero problems in the JK so far. By this mileage on my last Ford (a Focus) I was on my second fuel pump already. Granted, that was the last problem that car gave me for another 50-60k miles, and I sold it running (and still getting 30+mpg) at 134k last year, but still.

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Unread 11-01-2013, 11:18 AM   #311
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2014s with the head problem too? Dang my jeep hasn't even broke 1000 miles yet. My dealer swore up and down that Chrysler had fixed the head problem.
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Yea one of my friends who is an engine Tech at Dallas Dodge has told me some still have it not as much as the 12s and 13s were. He told me out of 10 two or so will eventually have the problem. I was under the impression it was fixed after mid 12 but then that went into late then became some early 13s which then was some mid to late 13s. I guess we will never know when none have this problem for sure.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 11:50 AM   #313
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My buddy had to lemon law his '12 F-150 after getting about 8 months of run-around from multiple dealers and corporate because he had the balls to move to another state after his purchase (he's military). Both loaner trucks the "new" dealer gave him while trying to fix his POS broke down repeatedly and actually left him stranded about 90 miles from anywhere...in Alaska.

I've had 2 good Fords and one POS. I'm over 30k miles with zero problems in the JK so far. By this mileage on my last Ford (a Focus) I was on my second fuel pump already. Granted, that was the last problem that car gave me for another 50-60k miles, and I sold it running (and still getting 30+mpg) at 134k last year, but still.

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Very true nothing is perfect. Leave it to Chrysler to show us that lol. Took an engine that has been around since 1991 that was tried and true just like the engine it replaced and tried to make it in Mexico for late 2007 and early 08 to save a few penny's and most if not all of those engines have either spun a bearing due to poor machine work/Qc or had oil consumption issues because either the rings didn't have the right tolerance or were just put upside down because Jose was mad that day lol. Didn't take Chrysler long to learn that lesson being most 07s and 08s had the lifetime deal so you know they lost there butts on that.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 12:06 PM   #314
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My 03 ford f150 work truck has 207k and is still on the original water pump,alternator, and starter. Beat that jeep lol.
My factory STICK Grand Cherokee had the original water pump replaced at 243,000 miles, by me. It still has the original radiator, PS pump, head, all internals, A/C pieces, virtually nothing has been changed except for maintenance items. Hell, it still has the original clutch!

I fully expect the same from my Rubicon.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 12:18 PM   #315
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2014s with the head problem too? Dang my jeep hasn't even broke 1000 miles yet. My dealer swore up and down that Chrysler had fixed the head problem.
they can say all they want, But the question is what did they fix. Jeep care has not one time gave real answer here. Its like getting info from the NSA or any government entity.

Like Hillary said," What does it matter".

The head design they said fixed this was made year ago yet it still is an issue? How can fix what is perfect? How can fix something if you DO NOT know why? hey what does it matter the heads are dead, move on. its a great design..........

Just a FR the heads are not even rebuild-able from what I have read so the motor is disposable. unless an aftermarket solution that ditches the combo exhaust to head desingn that i think is the root of this.
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