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Old 11-30-2007, 04:21 PM   #1
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Hmm...dilemma...just want opinions

Okay guys,

I installed the mopar front and rear bumpers, and then a superwinch. This caused my front end to sag. To correct this, I decided to install not one, but two .75" coil spacers for each spring in the front. I heard one might not be enough.

Now this took all factory rake out of the Jeep. No issues with ESP, BUT my headlights are blinding people at night(I think, can't confirm...might just be the ussual flashing I sometimes get at me because the Jeep's lights are just bright). The other issue is that the gap between my front wheels and the fenders is noticabley larger than the gap between my rear wheels and fenders.

I doubled the front spacers because I thought when I added the skid plate that the total weight would be too much for just one... Well I added the skid plate last night and it didn't drop the front end at all, maybe 1/8" or less. So using the weight of the skid plate to correct rake...not a success.

Currently, my front end is 1" higher than the original stock height, and my rear end appear to be anywhere from 1/2" to 1" lower than stock height as the rear bumper is weighing it down and I haven't corrected. However, the Jeep appears very level, no factory rake at all(though there are the two different gaps between tires and fenders).

So I've decided to try to restore the factory rake. I have two options....

1. I can take out one of the two .75" coil spacers that I had double stacked for each front spring and bring it down a bit, restoring factory rake....but I'd hate to go through it and find out that now I am sagged too much afterall with only one .75" spacer per coil. And the rake may be restored, but my rear end is still sagged a bit from the rear bumper...

2. The second option I had was to install a rear .75" coil spacers per each rear spring, thus compensating for the extra front spacers and also lifting up my rear-end height, which I believe is lower due to my rear bumper. This *should* restore the factory rake, and give me an approximate 1" lift overall, or at least return my rear's height back to stock. The only thing I'm worried about is if I add the rear spacer, will the front end point down too much again....ugh...

As much as I like working on my Jeep, I don't want to have to repeatedly pop off the wheels and drop the axles over and over again trying to get my height/rake correct.

Any opinions on what I should do?

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Old 11-30-2007, 04:35 PM   #2
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I would get some heavy duty coils that can handle the added weight of both bumpers, winch, tire carrier and whatever else it is you want to carry in your Jeep.

But if you don't want to do this, go with option number two. Add single coils to the rear while keeping the double coils up front. This should level out your Jeep and you shouldn't notice the front end sagging.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:41 PM   #3
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I figured that a pic was neccessary so I ran out and took one on my phone, sorry for poor quality...



I like the look sortof...don't like my rear end being lower....

What does anyone think? Leave it like it is and just adjust the headlights? Or the other two options....
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:05 PM   #4
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I agree that the rear is too low. Looks weird. Like there is a fat dog/relative in the back.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:10 PM   #5
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Okay, two opinions are all I needed to convince me, thanks guys. Gonna order the rear spacers now. Eventually I'm going to upgrade the coils, probably go with the heavy duty version of the OME 2" spring lift, but not until I do some considerable wear to my current tires and then replace them with 35's, so in the meantime, I'm just going to use spacers.

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Old 11-30-2007, 06:12 PM   #6
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I think it looks fine, but make it how you like it. As for the headlights, there is a silver screw on the side of each headlight, kind of inside the grill (outboard of each light). I think it is a T15 tip. This is the up/down adjustment screw. It doesn't look like it would adjust it that diresction, but it does. I just did mine last week after installing my lift and tires.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:19 PM   #7
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Late to the party, but I'd recommend the rear spacers as well. Odds are, you're going to have about an inch of sag all around over the next few years. So, you'll want to leave those spacers up front - you'll need them.

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