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Unread 12-23-2009, 08:15 PM   #1
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Hill Start Assist

anyone know if hill start assist can be turned off? Took a test drive tonight and it caught me by suprise a few times. more than likely, I could get used to it but...

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Unread 12-23-2009, 08:20 PM   #2
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It does take some getting use to. You actually have to give it a little more gas to get going but I have grown to like it. I'm not sure if it can be turned off.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 08:38 PM   #3
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It seems to me that growing accustomed to such a feature could be a bad thing in the event of a failure! It would also cause problems when you drive a vehicle that is not equippped with this feature!
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Unread 12-23-2009, 08:45 PM   #4
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Been driving standards over 30 years yeah maybe this will spoil me alittle but I won't forget how to drive one without the assist.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 08:54 PM   #5
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This is from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Can be downloaded from here http://www.jeep.com/en/owners/manuals/index.html

HSA Off
If you wish to turn off the HSA system, follow this
procedure:
1. Start with the engine off and vehicle in PARK (automatic
transmission) or NEUTRAL with clutch out
(manual transmission) with wheels straight. Apply parking
brake on manual transmission vehicle.
2. Start the engine.
3. With the engine running, the brake applied, and the
clutch out, rotate the steering wheel a half a turn counterclockwise
from center.
4. Press the “ESC Off” switch four times within twenty
seconds.
5. Rotate the steering wheel a full turn clockwise (half
turn clockwise from center).
6. Cycle ignition switch OFF then ON.
7. If the sequence was completed properly, the “ESC
Malfunction Indicator Light” will blink several times to
confirm HSA is off.
Steps 1-7 must be completed within 90 seconds to turn off
HSA. Repeat steps 1-7 to re-enable HSA functionality.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 09:09 PM   #6
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This comes on automatics as well? Why? I can understand not being able to work 3 pedals with 2 feet but 2 pedals with 2 feet should work just fine.
I guess its a computer thing, if it's in there then use it.
Look at that, answerd my own question again
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Unread 12-23-2009, 09:19 PM   #7
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i think it's a awesome feature. i didn't have to get used to it at all.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 09:46 PM   #8
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My first car back in '68 (a '56 VW Beetle) had hill start assist. It was called the parking brake lever back then. It worked very well. I only used it on the steepest of hills, though.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 09:53 PM   #9
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Plus you have to hold your left hand, palm up ONLY facing north while singin "oh my darlin" with your rearview mirror ****ed sideways but not East, this in conjunction with the above should allow ENOUGH time to forget about the assist, roll downhill and not have to worry about the assist... oh and push your "eject button with your left big toe too, forgot that....

(WHO was drinkin WHAN when at Xlysler they did these hill assist, ESP, etc., turn "off" "procedures"...?
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Unread 12-23-2009, 10:01 PM   #10
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Yeah, the different procedures are almost comical.
I suspect it's so if you turn it off, and get into an accident, their lawyers can prove you didn't turn it off accidently, and that you wanted it off bad enough to go through all the voodoo moves.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 10:03 PM   #11
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I'm a big fan but I wonder sometimes how that little bit of extra gas you are giving will treat you on a icey or slick slope when the brakes let go. I'm picturing some tires spinning... Good thing it's got the ESP I guess.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 10:03 PM   #12
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You would think a keypad on the dash would have been the best way to make these adjustments
But that would give us to much control over the situation!!!
They claim that "they were not as think as we drunk they are"
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i wonder how this is gonna work out in like seattle or frisco. steep steep hills and wet roads. hell sometimesi would have to put it in 4 just to get moving. even lugging in second gear i would still spin.

ever been spinning burning rubber sliding backwards? makes the guy behind ya real nervous
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Unread 12-24-2009, 07:34 AM   #14
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This is from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Can be downloaded from here My Jeep: Jeep Owners Service Manuals - 4x4 SUVs, Sports Utility Vehicles, Off Road

HSA Off
If you wish to turn off the HSA system, follow this
procedure:
1. Start with the engine off and vehicle in PARK (automatic
transmission) or NEUTRAL with clutch out
(manual transmission) with wheels straight. Apply parking
brake on manual transmission vehicle.
2. Start the engine.
3. With the engine running, the brake applied, and the
clutch out, rotate the steering wheel a half a turn counterclockwise
from center.
4. Press the “ESC Off” switch four times within twenty
seconds.
5. Rotate the steering wheel a full turn clockwise (half
turn clockwise from center).
6. Cycle ignition switch OFF then ON.
7. If the sequence was completed properly, the “ESC
Malfunction Indicator Light” will blink several times to
confirm HSA is off.
Steps 1-7 must be completed within 90 seconds to turn off
HSA. Repeat steps 1-7 to re-enable HSA functionality.

HOLY SHAZOOOM!!!! (regards for a G rated family site)

you gotta be kidding? I wonder if I have to read my wifes mind too? I have about as much chance as doing that correctly too! (been married 15 years...)

but seriously, thank you for the info!
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Unread 12-24-2009, 08:24 AM   #15
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What’s wrong with some of you? If you can’t figure out how to start going up a hill from a dead stop with a manual, you shouldn’t be driving one. All this new baby crap to help some people to drive is just plain ridiculous. What’s next, a special apparatus to hold a knife and fork the correct way while you cut your meat. Ouch!

Like already mentioned, that’s another use for the emergency brake. Throw away your diapers, get some pull-ups and learn the real way to drive.
Gonna have to agree. I been driving vehicles with manuals for well over 20 years and I can count on one hand the times I needed to use a parking brake to help me out... Thats including using the Johnson bar on the that I drove!



Heck, I drove the same pickup for 14 years and the parking brake never worked. I parked it with the bumper against the 50' pine tree that was behind it... Now that is a parking brake!
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