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Unread 02-15-2011, 12:31 PM   #46
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awesome write-up. looks like i'll be upgrading from the ipfs to the z-beams with a harness when i get back. i told you id be paying attention to your findings!!

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Unread 02-16-2011, 09:50 AM   #47
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I'm going to try out a set of JW Speaker model 8700s soon. I'm really excited; LEDs are awesome.

John from Speaker tells me that they've incorporated a small fan into the housing that circulates some of the LED heat to the lens to keep snow/ice from accumulating; clever. And look at that photometry; talk about an even spread...

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Unread 02-16-2011, 10:44 AM   #48
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I'm going to try out a set of JW Speaker model 8700s soon. I'm really excited; LEDs are awesome.

John from Speaker tells me that they've incorporated a small fan into the housing that circulates some of the LED heat to the lens to keep snow/ice from accumulating; clever. And look at that photometry; talk about an even spread...
Sweet!

I just wish they looked like a normal projector. They are not very appeasing to the eye.
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Unread 02-16-2011, 11:12 AM   #49
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Sweet!

I just wish they looked like a normal projector. They are not very appeasing to the eye.
I like the way they look; they remind me of the HAL-9000 computer...

click the pic

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Unread 02-16-2011, 01:19 PM   #50
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I'm going to try out a set of JW Speaker model 8700s soon. I'm really excited; LEDs are awesome.

I've googled the 8700's and can't find any retailers that carry them. Could you point me in the right direction?
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talk about an even spread...
Indeed!
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Unread 02-16-2011, 01:32 PM   #51
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I've googled the 8700's and can't find any retailers that carry them. Could you point me in the right direction?
I'm pretty sure that you can get them from Harley dealers.

JW Speaker is working on having them at off-road oriented stores as well. We spoke today about the possibility of them at 4WheelParts ---- that way you could have them installed there too if you wanted; I'm thinking that some people might shy away from cutting the buckets behind their lights.

I googled and found them for higher than retail at a big-truck shop. Retail is $535 each.
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Unread 02-16-2011, 01:45 PM   #52
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Hey guys you will love these lights. They work very well, I am really impressed with the output and the pattern. You will love like them Hilldweller.
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Unread 02-16-2011, 01:53 PM   #53
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Thanks guys. So in effect, although they're LED, they're leagues better than the TL's we've been discussing? I'd just about given up on LED altogether..but this changes things....
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Unread 02-16-2011, 02:56 PM   #54
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Thanks guys. So in effect, although they're LED, they're leagues better than the TL's we've been discussing? I'd just about given up on LED altogether..but this changes things....
Just proof you get what you pay for. At $500+ a light (not a pair) they better be better lights!
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Unread 02-16-2011, 03:02 PM   #55
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Meh. Jake's is longer. I've seen it...
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Unread 02-16-2011, 04:35 PM   #56
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Hello all. I'm glad to see Hilldweller's & MikeThis's investigations (and another on the way), and think they're well-deserving of a pat on the back for their efforts. We provided some lamps in hopes that the forum could get a feel for the product, and the group of users could provide their own feedback. I'm still trying to leave the conversation to the public, but I can talk to a few points...

The pattern of the light output is a result of the lamp design, and it's the nature of refraction optics. We've worked to try and spread the pattern, and really feel the 27250C does the best job of it for the technology. We actually tried to reach areas that a reflector beam doesn't, and put the light where it best seemed needed. I would agree that many HID and bulb-operated lamps can create cleaner-spread output, but as an attractive LED alternative, it's a product we're excited about. We're steadfast in the belief that the white, bulb-less, lower-draw technology is worth the development, and the headlamp is an obvious application for it. This is our solution.

As it comes to off-road lighting, we do recognize the need for added light, and mate these lamps with a line of matching flood, spot and utility lamps, trying not to rely solely in the headlight.

Again, our hopes were to provide a contact for everyone, educate on our product, and try to avoid any misconceptions about it's design. I really think the guys have done a great service for everyone, and appreciate the interest in the lamps. We'll be here to answer any questions, and encourage them. Please also feel free to use our technical support line if you have any technical questions. We're staffed to help.

Thanks again for the support and interest everyone.
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Unread 02-16-2011, 04:42 PM   #57
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Good points, Jerry.
I don't want anybody thinking that I dislike the Truck-Lites ---- if my Jeep weren't a daily driver and saw more severe trail use, they'd be my first choice.
They're better than the stockers, tough as nails, and never need a bulb.

Z-Beams with Osrams might yield better gobs of light ---- but, to level the playing field, the cost of admission to the party is reoccurring. My beloved Osram bulbs are $45 (including shipping) every 6 months or so. Add that to the Z's $222 price tag + harness and shipping. It adds up.
You buy the Truck-Lites or JW Speaker lights one time and then put them in your new Jeep after the old one rusts away...
That's pretty neat.
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Unread 02-16-2011, 07:11 PM   #58
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Thanks guys for all the work involved to do this write up, and thank you to the companies that donated lights, also nice to see that company comment and acknowledge the work and results......good way to go about things....!!! Thanks again guys, the DS kit is still appealing, and like someone said...you get what you pay for I guess right?
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Unread 02-17-2011, 06:24 AM   #59
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HAL-9000 computer: I don't know where you got that, and it dates both of us, but I did laugh out loud. The bezel is so 60's with the chrome surround and gold mesh grille. I can almost hear "I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do".

I wish we could select Hal as the voice for the audible control system.

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Unread 02-17-2011, 06:40 AM   #60
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HAL-9000 computer: I don't know where you got that, and it dates both of us, but I did laugh out loud. The bezel is so 60's with the chrome surround and gold mesh grille. I can almost hear "I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do".

I wish we could select Hal as the voice for the audible control system.

Thanks
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My PC at work talks to me in HAL's voice.
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