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post #571 of 783 Old 01-21-2013, 12:21 PM
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I feel the same way its the same harness as the one that came with my TLs but it has two two dollar capcitors
I wouldn't think it would take much to put together your own harness with capacitors to smooth out the signal to the relay.


So the JW speakers have moving parts in them? A fan? Never heard that before!

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post #572 of 783 Old 01-21-2013, 01:40 PM
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The JW Speakers have a fan to blow air off the heat sink onto the glass.
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The new "Evolution" series don't anymore.

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post #573 of 783 Old 01-25-2013, 10:47 PM
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I have TLs and dont have a problem with snow or ice build up. The dirt and road grime does however decrease the light output and it seem more noticeable over stock lights. I may add washers to keep them clean

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Any word on the anti-flicker dongle? I thought we might hear something around the end of January.
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post #575 of 783 Old 03-06-2013, 08:45 AM
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I have had a pair of Trucklite Phase 7 headlights for about a year now, and when I bought them I specifically asked about their performance in snow. I had heard about other LED lights allowing the build up of snow on their lenses due to the lack of heat they put out while operating — the consenses was that it wouldn't be a problem. Well, it is.

I think it's a combination of their relatively flat lens with the lack of heat output (which is light energy lost, I know: inefficient), but I got to test this out during some wet snow the past two "storms" we've had in MD, including today, and it's definitely something worth noting. Dry, champange powder like out west? Not a problem, as it'll just sluff off the light's cold surface. But wet, buildable snow WILL accumulate on the lens surface, defracting light that's very evident at night with the spread of light aimed upwards with no cutoff whatsoever. I was even catching glimpses of faces of the drivers of oncoming traffic ... I'm sure they didn't appreciate it.

Some older LED designs incorporated a heat fan to circulate some of the heat from the LED heatsinks to the lens do remedy this ... for right now, I'm stuck cleaning of the lenses every 10 minutes of driving, or so.

Food for thought. I will say that I'm 100% satisfied with them in all other aspects a light can be judged on, but driving in east coast snow (wet) is not one of them.

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I have had a pair of Trucklite Phase 7 headlights for about a year now, and when I bought them I specifically asked about their performance in snow. I had heard about other LED lights allowing the build up of snow on their lenses due to the lake of heat they put out while operating the consenses was that it wouldn't be a problem. Well, it is.

I think it's a combination of their relatively flat lens with the lack of heat output (which is light energy lost, I know: inefficient), but I got to test this out during some wet snow the past two "storms" we've had in MD, including today, and it's definitely something worth noting. Dry, champange powder like out west? Not a problem, as it'll just sluff off the light's cold surface. But wet, buildable snow WILL accumulate on the lens surface, defracting light that's very evident at night with the spread of light aimed upwards with no cutoff whatsoever. I was even catching glimpses of faces of the drivers of oncoming traffic ... I'm sure they didn't appreciate it.

Some older LED designs incorporated a heat fan to circulate some of the heat from the LED heatsinks to the lens do remedy this ... for right now, I'm stuck cleaning of the lenses every 10 minutes of driving, or so.

Food for thought. I will say that I'm 100% satisfied with them in all other aspects a light can be judged on, but driving in east coast snow (wet) is not one of them.
I have experienced the same. (I live in Maryland so I was driving in the mess this morning )
I have to say that I didn't see a huge difference between my Truck-lites and the other plastic lens headlights though. They seems to be caked with the wet snow as well (maybe just a bit less though).

In any case, it is an issue.
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post #577 of 783 Old 03-06-2013, 10:19 AM
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Yes, unfortunately that is the downside of LED lights including taillights which are hard enough to keep snow free even with regular bulbs.
All that extra light doesn't do much good if it can't get through the snow.

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Yes, unfortunately that is the downside of LED lights including taillights which are hard enough to keep snow free even with regular bulbs.
All that extra light doesn't do much good if it can't get through the snow.
Yeah, it's a shame. But that's how technology grows. Sheesh, I mean if snow/ice build up is the only real problem of modern LED lighting (other than the artifacts that are inherent with the square LED design), then we're doing pretty good.

Stinks that it's taken a year to figure out this problem for myself, though, as we haven't had much snow in north/central MD in the past two years. I don't know what kind of testing Truck-Lite did with the new units, but most of their snow testing must've been out west because there's no way they would've deemed them acceptable in an east coast storm.

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Yes, unfortunately that is the downside of LED lights including taillights which are hard enough to keep snow free even with regular bulbs.
All that extra light doesn't do much good if it can't get through the snow.
I think it's a great that people use this as a reason not to buy them. Here in Minnesota we get our ***** out and clean off the ice and snow buildup regardless LED or halogen
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I think it is great when southern folk don't know the conditions up north. I don't think I wanna stop on the highway every five miles on my 40 mile commute home during a snow storm to wipe headlights off. And yes that is the only reason I DON'T have LED headlights. I have enough invested in aux LED lights that are useless in a snow storm. The Halogen lights do stay clear of snow for the commute home.

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I think it is great when southern folk don't know the conditions up north. I don't think I wanna stop on the highway every five miles on my 40 mile commute home during a snow storm to wipe headlights off. And yes that is the only reason I DON'T have LED headlights. I have enough invested in aux LED lights that are useless in a snow storm. The Halogen lights do stay clear of snow for the commute home.
It's not every 5 miles more like all day and let your jeep sit outside in the cold and freeze over and the lights don't thaw. Kind of like a snowmobiles rear suspension that needs to be shooken up with all the ice buildup. As for Aux lights I have a few myself
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Like I said, that may work for you but not up north here.

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I think it is great when southern folk don't know the conditions up north. I don't think I wanna stop on the highway every five miles on my 40 mile commute home during a snow storm to wipe headlights off. And yes that is the only reason I DON'T have LED headlights. I have enough invested in aux LED lights that are useless in a snow storm. The Halogen lights do stay clear of snow for the commute home.
I've had to do this with the OE lights. Conditions can overwhelm anything.

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Like I said, that may work for you but not up north here.
I live on the Canadian line so must be a hell of a difference that much farther north!!
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