post #511 of Old 10-31-2012, 05:53 AM
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possible group buy?
This would be nice! Looking forward to ending the flicker!

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post #512 of Old 10-31-2012, 06:33 AM
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I think the new jeeps are getting close to 40k. I would also imagine that you get the exciting diesel motor.
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post #513 of Old 10-31-2012, 06:44 AM Thread Starter
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Greetings from down under. First - HILLDWELLER - you are a legend. The work you have done - thank you so much. I was thinking "you need to get a life" on the early parts of the thread - but then I saw the photo enjoying a beer and I concluded you clearly have the right balance!

Has anyone got experience fitting 8700's (new model) on an Aussie JK. Ours have the Hella H4 standard (oh stop complaining you yanks - we also pay upwards of $40k)?

Also - can an idiot fit these suckers.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!
You need the RHD variant but it should be plugnplay for you. Check with JW Speaker first and make sure they build one...

Or:

You could also mount a Toyota part #90981-01037; that's the left-side Koito-built H4 and I hear that it works much better than the Hella you've got.

Yes; an idiot can fit them...

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post #514 of Old 11-02-2012, 03:46 AM
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Thanks Bill. I purchased the JW Speakers yesterday - and tried to install today - lights worked perfect - but over here - we have the Parking Light in the head light - and I will have to work out how to fix that. The JW Speakers have the parking light (so maybe its the same as UP ABOVE - but where the light has a female cover surrounding a male pin - the park light is obviously different.

On the pricing here - a basic Wrangler Unlimited is just over 40k - Rubicon 50k +. We pay through the nose for cars! Add another 5k for that diesel. With a Range Rover Vogue in the garage (175k) - and an SL55 (new $340k - but there is no way I'd buy that sucker new) - well the difference is HUGE! Pity the Bi-Xenons in those two will be beaten by the Headlights (and XRAY VISION HID Driving lights) on the Wrangler.

Also - FYI - The new ARB INTENSITY LED DRIVING LIGHTS have just been launched DOWN UNDER (pre-release). Whilst they the ugliest things in the world (they were born in the ugly tree and on the way down hit every branch) - knowing ARB - they probably work brilliantly. Bill - get your local distributor in the states to send you a pair to test out. If you are interested - read this http://mailer.volume.net.au/display....2018&L=2&N=910
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With the ARB 4x4 Action Magazine give away of the two Intensity lights - I hope everyone in the forum puts in an entry - one of you wins - and sends them onto Bill for his fine work!
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With the ARB 4x4 Action Magazine give away of the two Intensity lights - I hope everyone in the forum puts in an entry - one of you wins - and sends them onto Bill for his fine work!
For the price listed each I doubt it will be a big seller here in the US unless it reduces
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post #517 of Old 11-02-2012, 05:32 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah, the ARB Intensity is, ummmm, interesting... ...but I wouldn't spend my money on them.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...-BRIGHT-lights

I like bright and I like LED but not at the cost of CRI and function. Since they're the wrong color, wrong pattern, too bright, and just generally not suited as driving lights, they'll have to be relegated to offroad use. Taking a look at the power demand and price per lumen, I'd say to buy some Optilux cheap-n-stinky HID lights and declare victory if you're after an offroad light.

Chris and his loyal testmule Rubicon will be getting a set of prototype JW Speaker LED driving lights installed this weekend in the woods. They have a DOT compliant beam of light and I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do.
He went and got a cheapo LED bar and mounted it to his Jeep ---- I measured the light and it is non-existent at 50 yards. It is a MISERABLE driving light and only good at very low speed driving.

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I found it interesting that Four Wheeler magazine did a headlight shootout in a recent issue and used these same lights to test. From the pics they showed, the Truck-Lite headlights are #1 by far...especially when you consider they are half the price of the Speakers. The light pattern was fantastic and super bright and the lights themselves are much more asthetically pleasing. I wonder where they got the idea for a headlight shootout from? Hmm...

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post #519 of Old 11-03-2012, 08:58 AM
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Chris and his loyal testmule Rubicon will be getting a set of prototype JW Speaker LED driving lights installed this weekend in the woods. They have a DOT compliant beam of light and I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do.
Bill - I'm looking for an LED driving light - the existing ones from JWS or if I can find one from TL. Please post results of your test with Chris - or point me to a thread if you have a separate one about LED driving lights I haven't found...

Thanks! Edit - if you have time that is. Thanks for ell the advice you gave which helped me decide on the Trucklites as headlight replacements.
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silly thought, but what makes the d.sterns harness better than Putco's Heavy-Duty Harness and Relay for H4 Halogen Bulbs?

Getting the Sterns's harness is pushing the cost into speaker territory. As opposed to putco's 40$ harness with direct battery draw.

**edit; i guess i posted the wrong one; i guess I'd need the h13 version if i already had the adapters
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really? no thoughts? i'd like to do-it-myself; I just need a reason why I should lean towards a custom made vs a prefab'd one. Am I looking at a more steady voltage?
the harness/relay stuff sorta goes over my head. as I don't see a difference between one from another. especially if i'm drawing such a low voltage for LED's
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Where's the best deal on a set of harness and trucklites right now
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silly thought, but what makes the d.sterns harness better than Putco's Heavy-Duty Harness and Relay for H4 Halogen Bulbs?

Getting the Sterns's harness is pushing the cost into speaker territory. As opposed to putco's 40$ harness with direct battery draw.

**edit; i guess i posted the wrong one; i guess I'd need the h13 version if i already had the adapters
Does this harness have the capacitors and resistors wired in to smooth out the PWM and not eat the relays?
That's sorta the whole point...

Never did get to test the JWS driving lights. Chris was MIA and they're still sitting in my truck.
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post #524 of Old 11-05-2012, 10:43 PM
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Never did get to test the JWS driving lights. Chris was MIA and they're still sitting in my truck.
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Bill are the ones waiting in your truck for testing the TS3000R (or V) - or are they a newer product?

http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/he...product=500263

Whichever they are, I hope you and Chris manage to hook up eventually and they pass muster
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Hilldweller,
I'm real curious to find out how that Truck-Lite dongle works out (and how much it's going to cost!). I'm about to pull the trigger on the Truck-Lites for my Jeep and am willing to get the harness but I'll be damned if I can find a link for just the Rallylights harness. I do think it is a bit pricey but I will go that route to make sure my headlights don't flicker if the dongle doesn't workout.

I agree with you about the HID conversion kits. IMO you are better off with a legal solution. You may never get pulled by the police for your lights, but if you do, they have now become a lot more expensive then the legal solutions tested in this thread. (Not judging anyone that is willing to take the chance, just my opinion)
If you are interested in the wiring harness from Susquehanna Motorsports to prevent the flicker of LED headlamps, go to this link
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4887
and select part number HL28130J from the drop down menu.

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