post #31 of Old 02-13-2011, 03:35 PM
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The flicker isn't a strobe, think of a faulty alternator causing your headlights to either dim between RPM's or a very quick blink.

I drove an hour to and from my hockey game with these last night and it's hardly noticeable if you weren't the wiser.

I drove on some dark roads, here are the Truck-Lite headlights by themselves with no stock fogs.
Completely off topic, where do you play Hockey on Long Island. I used to play a lot mostly in Long Beach but now I live on the North Shore.

Back on topic Yes or no do you like the lights??? Any regrets if any? These lights are a lot of money so I dont want buyers remorse if or when I buy them.

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Completely off topic, where do you play Hockey on Long Island. I used to play a lot mostly in Long Beach but now I live on the North Shore.

Back on topic Yes or no do you like the lights??? Any regrets if any? These lights are a lot of money so I dont want buyers remorse if or when I buy them.
I live in Bethpage - I play out at the Rinx in Happague. Last night I drove out from East Hampton so I was on the road a bit. My team plays for Suffolk County Hockey League.

I like the lights, but I was sent a set to test and post my thoughts. I have to be honest and say if I bought them I would be slightly disappointed. However, saying that - they performed better than the stock halogens in my opinion. Had I purchased them I'd keep them installed.

But what "works" for me, may not work for you. That's what's hard about mods like this.

Truck-Lite is on the right track and hopefully they use our feedback to improve their product.
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Good bling photo in your avatar, Mike.

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Good bling photo in your avatar, Mike.
Yeah, I got a little over zealous. lol
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Thanks, but I'll stick to my $50 retrofit HIDs from DDM Tuning. These things can light up an airport (properly aimed, of course).

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Any of you guys with the new truck lites, live in the North west? If you do maybe we can setup a meeting and compare the Speaker LEDS to the Truck lites. If any of you are in or going to Montana Idaho or Washington I could drive down from Edmonton Ab to meet you to compare lights and do some wheeling.
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Thanks, but I'll stick to my $50 retrofit HIDs from DDM Tuning. These things can light up an airport (properly aimed, of course).
if they were only 50 bucks, that's not a retrofit. they may be HID's, but you didn't get retrofitted projectors for 50 bucks. hell, i can't even buy one projector for that much.

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good grief, just buy the Rubicon.
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Thanks, but I'll stick to my $50 retrofit HIDs from DDM Tuning. These things can light up an airport (properly aimed, of course).
They're not safe, legal, or properly aimed.

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cjlewis came over to the Hilldweller proving grounds with his Rubicon and set of Northridge-sourced IPF reflectors with clear bulbs. Big "thank you" to him.
The results were, ahem, illuminating.

Lowbeam IPF


Highbeam IPF


And a side shot that needs an explanation


These are wired with a pigtail connector rather than a full harness; they're fed stock PW-modulated power with added resistance from an extra connector.

These lights have been available from IPF/ARB for a long long time; they are very popular in the Land Rover community.
I've also made a large deal over the fact that IPF has never submitted them for testing to certify that they meet DOT or ECE regulations; we now know why.
Looking at Chris' Jeep from the side, I noticed that it looked like beams of light were shooting into the sky. So we measured it and, sure enough, we found 1700 LUX of stray light at a highly oblique angle (see photo). I measured my Cibie Z-Beams for comparison and got 63 LUX.
I can't imagine how these would work to mess with the driver's ability to see in fog, let alone oncoming traffic.


The numbers:

Ambient temperature 53 degrees F; lens temperature 135 degrees F

Lowbeam value in blue, high in red.

LUX at 25 feet, sensor moved to highest output spot. 517/513

25 yards Right: 69/79 * Left: 1/1

50 yards Right: 2/25 * Left: 1/3

75 yards Right: 1/10 * Left: 1/4

Again, a big thanks to Chris for driving over from Roswell on a Sunday night and helping with this. It was a pleasure to meet him and I hope he'll join our camping group; seems like he and his family would really fit in.
Nice Rubi too...

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Looking at Chris' Jeep from the side, I noticed that it looked like beams of light were shooting into the sky. So we measured it and, sure enough, we found 1700 LUX of stray light at a highly oblique angle (see photo).
http://www.wildboarproducts.com/accessories.html

I wonder if the Wild Boar grill would alleviate this? Would it possible to re-test with simulated (cardboard or something) overhang to see how it affects the light pattern as far us stray and upward lighting? Maybe it would give it a nice straight cutoff. I am curious. Please?

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I wonder if the Wild Boar grill would alleviate this? Would it possible to re-test with simulated (cardboard or something) overhang to see how it affects the light pattern as far us stray and upward lighting? Maybe it would give it a nice straight cutoff.
A bad reflector is a bad reflector. It might help but why put a bandaid on a bullet wound?
Remove the bullet and you'll do much better.

I notice that WB is using Delta lights, BTW. Another uncertifiable 7" reflector that I need to get a hold of.
If that's their idea of a good headlight, their products need to be held to tighter scrutiny...

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A bad reflector is a bad reflector. It might help but why put a bandaid on a bullet wound?
Remove the bullet and you'll do much better.

I notice that WB is using Delta lights, BTW. Another uncertifiable 7" reflector that I need to get a hold of.
If that's their idea of a good headlight, their products need to be held to tighter scrutiny...
Good points, but I am not sure that you can hold their products and craftsmanship up to scrutiny because of their headlight selection! That's like undermining the JK all because of the 3.8! Oh, wait, people have been doing that for years now...

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Any of you guys with the new truck lites, live in the North west? If you do maybe we can setup a meeting and compare the Speaker LEDS to the Truck lites. If any of you are in or going to Montana Idaho or Washington I could drive down from Edmonton Ab to meet you to compare lights and do some wheeling.
I'm the third leg in this test stool, and just haven't gotten the lights from Jerry yet (my fault, not his). But I'm in Seattle, so if I can get some time off work we can figure out a way to meet. Your Speaker lights were exactly what I wnated, and would love to see how the Truck-Lights match up.

When I get them, I won't be comparing them to stock, but to the Deltas (which I will disclose up front that I hate).

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Excellent write-up! I need to sell my IPFs for some DS zbeams.
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Ok see when you can get off work and I'll see if I can get off work and maybe meet up somewhere in Coeur d'Alene Idaho or Spokane Washinington. I love the Lights. Bright good depth and aim the way Speaker wants no blinding of on coming drivers, and the best part for our over enthusiastic LEO - DOT legal. I had a set of the old truck lites and they were not good, I would almost say the stock light was better.... I would be willing to try the new ones if they wanted me too, I could include them in the new magazine article I am writing, but that is up to them.
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