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Unread 03-14-2011, 05:38 AM   #151
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looks like hellas and cibies are the way to go.
I've run both and either one is a huge improvement over stock....



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Yep, that is what it looks like and a huge thanks for the numbers chart.

Tell me if this is offbase at all:
Best bang-for-the-buck - Rallylights / Hellas + Phillips Extreme +80

Best overall - DS Kit w/ Osram bulbs (Looks like this provides the best 'balance')

Best if you really want to spend a lot of money - JW Speaker

I think I'm going to have to go w/ Rallylights and order them next paycheck.

I started out with the rallylights kit, then jumped the the Cibie Z-Beams, both are great lighting improvements. Once you get your new harness in place, you have options and can upgrade easily....

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Unread 03-14-2011, 07:05 AM   #152
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I've run both and either one is a huge improvement over stock....






I started out with the rallylights kit, then jumped the the Cibie Z-Beams, both are great lighting improvements. Once you get your new harness in place, you have options and can upgrade easily....
Thanks! When my wife drives the Jeep, her main complaint is the lights and doesn't like to drive it at night. We're taking a roadtrip next month and I think this kit is going to help a lot just based off of this thread and the photos. I even upgraded the bulbs in the stock lens and they are still horrible.
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Unread 03-14-2011, 08:37 AM   #153
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Some numbers for the Phillips Xtreme +80 H4 bulbs in a Hella H4 reflector; bulbs are harnessed/relayed for optimal power.

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And we measured 6 LUX dead center at 125 yards, unassisted by any supplemental driving lights. The Hella reflectors have a tremendous middle-of-the-road hot-spot, a little too much foreground light, and not enough off to the sides. But with a pair of supplemental lights to provide some light to the sides, they'd give you the most total light so far. The highbeams are a little too high as well ---- but a remarkable focus...

...

Yes; the lights lit up the rooftops in the neighborhood past the woods. You could see our shadows on the houses; about a quarter mile as the crow flies...
Boy howdy.
In the end, that's how I adjusted my Hellas -- by aiming the highbeam pattern to hit the road at a reasonable distance that was still bright.

The low beams are aimed a little low/near, but not too bad.

And I usually end up running the fogs to fill in the edges a bit... at least on low beams.


Thanks for the good work HD and crew!
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Unread 03-14-2011, 11:09 AM   #154
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Thanks! When my wife drives the Jeep, her main complaint is the lights and doesn't like to drive it at night. We're taking a roadtrip next month and I think this kit is going to help a lot just based off of this thread and the photos. I even upgraded the bulbs in the stock lens and they are still horrible.
If you order the rallylights kit, be sure to upgrade the bulbs to the Phillips +80's, they will give you a credit for the bulbs that come with the kit....

Then watch out, these light up enough to make road signs a little bright..
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Unread 03-14-2011, 11:51 AM   #155
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Thanks! When my wife drives the Jeep, her main complaint is the lights and doesn't like to drive it at night. We're taking a roadtrip next month and I think this kit is going to help a lot just based off of this thread and the photos. I even upgraded the bulbs in the stock lens and they are still horrible.
Realignment is required. With either the Philips Xtreme +50 or +80 bulbs, the H13s are perfectly serviceable and safe if you'll bring them down about 7-10 degrees. Truly, a world of difference if not outright impressed after doing that to mine.
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Unread 03-15-2011, 10:53 AM   #156
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The Philips Extreme bulbs made a noticeable improvement over stock, IMHO. I still wanted more, so I ordered everything from DS.

I did not know about the Z-Beams at the time, but it sounds like the standard Cibie's are more than adequate and in a completely different league from OE.
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Unread 06-17-2011, 06:48 AM   #157
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I popped in the DS system with the harness and Osram bulbs last night. Daniel Stern, you're my hero! That's all I need to say.
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Unread 06-17-2011, 01:12 PM   #158
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I popped in the DS system with the harness and Osram bulbs last night. Daniel Stern, you're my hero! That's all I need to say.
I've had the DS lights and harness for about a month now...
The difference to the stock lights is absolutely amazing!
Thanks to Hilldweller for all his work on this thread!

Cheers,
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Unread 06-20-2011, 07:56 PM   #159
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G Class Retrofit?

I noticed a G55 G Class with Xenons the other day. Apparently the 2009-11 had these as an option.

It wouldn't be the cheapest conversion, but I wonder if these would work/fit?













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Unread 06-21-2011, 12:19 AM   #160
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I noticed a G55 G Class with Xenons the other day. Apparently the 2009-11 had these as an option.

It wouldn't be the cheapest conversion, but I wonder if these would work/fit?
I would like to see this as well!

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Unread 06-21-2011, 06:42 AM   #161
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I could make'em fit...

But why? The Sylvania/Veleo product costs less and does the same thing.
I bet the fancy ones have self-levelers too and that would have to be dealt with.
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Unread 06-22-2011, 12:51 AM   #162
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I could make'em fit...

But why? The Sylvania/Veleo product costs less and does the same thing.
I bet the fancy ones have self-levelers too and that would have to be dealt with.
I thought that I had read through this entire thread.... Does it have this combo listed somewhere and I missed it? If not can you please explain or just refer me to a page or something??

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Unread 06-22-2011, 04:26 AM   #163
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I thought that I had read through this entire thread.... Does it have this combo listed somewhere and I missed it? If not can you please explain or just refer me to a page or something??

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Sylvania/Valeo XE7 bi-xenon 7" headlights ---- the real deal. They have H4 pigtails and would need bucket modification just like the JW Speaker 8700.
Perfectly legal.
Don't be fooled into the other Sylvania product or other look-alikes, similar code numbers, etc. The rest are either junk or illegal.
These usually sell for under $700/pair from discount mail-order places.
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Unread 06-28-2011, 12:55 PM   #164
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...I sure do like those Z-Beams...
Got a website I can go to for this
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Unread 06-28-2011, 01:38 PM   #165
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Got a website I can go to for this
I don't believe that Daniel Stern Lighting has any Z-beams left; they've been out of production for a decade.
The regular Cibies are less expensive and work great.
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