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Unread 06-21-2013, 10:13 AM   #1
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Getting ready for first-time off-road -- newbie advice

The family and I are planning a camping trip with my in-laws around the first full week of July in Arkansas. While we're there, we're tentatively planning to go check out Superlift ORV Park near Hot Springs.

This will be my first time putting the JK's 4WD system to use, so I'd appreciate some advice from someone who's been there regarding taking a stock JKX for a little walk in the woods. (Everything I saw on park trips via a forum search looked like folks taking modified rigs. I'm running stock tires and suspension.)

I figure since I won't know what the heck I'm doing and we'll be alone, we'll stick to the one- and two-diamond trails since the park website says a stocker should handle those trails without difficulty. (Is this true, or just good PR?)

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Unread 06-21-2013, 10:29 AM   #2
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You'd be surprised how capable a stock jeep is. I wouldn't worry too much. Do the easy trails first, then as you get most confidence, work your way up. We had a stock JKU go on a trail ride with us and while it wasn't the most difficult trail, it was keeping up with our lifted TJs and JKs.

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Unread 06-21-2013, 10:32 AM   #3
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I'll let someone else give better details. When you are at public 4x4 parks.....the people who run the parks, post signs, give trail ratings etc , do so with ALL 4x4's in mind. Like Toyota pick ups and 4runnrs. Ford rangers, pickups, mom's Subaru etc.

You're in a Jeep. A two diamond trail or #2 rated trail will be a cake walk. You probably will find you won't even have to put it in 4WD.

Do start easy and don't engage 4WD for a while and see how far you can really get before you need it. You'll be surprised.

Now I'll leave room for others to chime in!!

Enjoy your trip!
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Unread 06-21-2013, 10:44 AM   #4
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I have to agree. In completly stock form our Jeeps can do stuff that would really suprise u. Make sure you have a good tow strap.
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Unread 06-21-2013, 10:56 AM   #5
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I would put a skid on the evap canister for starters. If you haven't installed an aux transmission cooler yet, then keep it in 4-Low so you don't overheat the transmission fluid.
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Unread 06-21-2013, 11:17 AM   #6
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Don't worry and you'll have a blast. when you get off road, turn off your traction control so you can get some wheel spin if needed. it will automatically turn off if you go to 4lo. if you get in any kind of loose terrain with it on, you'll feel like your bogging down but its the traction control you're fighting. sand especially. have fun!
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Unread 06-21-2013, 11:39 AM   #7
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Never offroad alone, but if you must, let someone know where you are, and when you plan on returning...along with any other important info. I always recommend at a minimum water, a little chow, first aid kit.

And of course have a blast....
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The Hot Springs ORV park is pretty nice. Or at least it was 2 years ago.

This being your first time out with a stock rig - stick with the 1's & 2's like you planned.

Pay close attention to the trail markers as you are driving. Some of the trails intertwine and you might find yourself on something way more difficult than you were expecting (ask me how I know ). The map on their website is not to scale and some of those trails are closer to each other than they appear.

There should be plenty of people there that week who can help if you get in a bind. It's a small park so if you have to walk out as a last resort, not a big deal.

You can buy drinks, snacks, basic cookout stuff, oil and other fluids there if needed. Always cheaper of course to bring your own. Hot Springs is VERY close so not a big deal to run back to town if needed.

Other than the fact that it will probably be hotter than snot that week, you will probably have a blast and meet a lot of good people.
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Thanks for the tips! (And keep 'em coming)


Victim, now you've got me worried. Will 4hi really lead to that much higher temps?

Capper, I'd never go alone if we weren't in what I presume will be a well-trafficked area. That's one reason I haven't taken her out before now: I don't know anyone around here who has a 4WD anything.

Phat,you raise a concern I had from looking at YouTube videos of the park. Just how well are the trails marked? I inherited a notoriously bad sense of direction. If I end up on a five trail, can I safely turn around, or am I doomed to beat up my rig trying to crawl out?

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Thanks for the tips! (And keep 'em coming)


Victim, now you've got me worried. Will 4hi really lead to that much higher temps?

Capper, I'd never go alone if we weren't in what I presume will be a well-trafficked area. That's one reason I haven't taken her out before now: I don't know anyone around here who has a 4WD anything.

Phat,you raise a concern I had from looking at YouTube videos of the park. Just how well are the trails marked? I inherited a notoriously bad sense of direction. If I end up on a five trail, can I safely turn around, or am I doomed to beat up my rig trying to crawl out?

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Auto or manual? I would definitely keep an eye on it. I've seen the hot oil light on a friends rig after a few green runs. 4-low you don't have to worry about it.
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Unread 06-21-2013, 07:11 PM   #11
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Auto or manual? I would definitely keep an eye on it. I've seen the hot oil light on a friends rig after a few green runs. 4-low you don't have to worry about it.
It's an auto. That's incredible that such an ostensibly easy trail would tax it like that.

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If in doubt keep it in 4 lo that way you'll go easy on your transmission. Have fun!
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It's an auto. That's incredible that such an ostensibly easy trail would tax it like that.

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Do a search on the forum on it, plenty of info. I just keep it in 4-low until I install an aux cooler.
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I have yet to have a hot oil issue in my auto so don't worry too much on easy stuff. Also just go put a dent or scratch in it now that way it won't hurt so bad when the trail does it for you.
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Unread 06-21-2013, 10:21 PM   #15
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If you're worried about trans oil temp. You can pick up an Aux trans cooler for around $50. Install is super easy. Took me about 30 minutes or so. Probably a good idea if your rig older than a 2012. I believe all 2012s and newer already have an Aux collet installed
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