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Unread 09-23-2013, 09:30 PM   #16
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Didn't you just state a cheaper alternative to this system? I'd just install a Diehard Platinum and not wheel alone.
Yes, it would be cheaper, but not better. And, at some time, the diehard will die! Odds are, two batteries won't die at the same time.

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I can think of many options that were cheaper than the ones your chose, but you got them because they were what you wanted and thought was best for you at the time.



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Unread 09-29-2013, 11:10 AM   #17
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Those of you that are looking for a dual battery solution will not be disappointed.
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Unread 09-30-2013, 08:58 AM   #18
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I really like that setup - very slick.

Main reason for duals:
operational redundancy - much like a workstation computer is fine for some things - servers are more critical and thus protected from failures by redundancy (backup drives, RAID etc). This applies to a jeep in the tough world of off road and remote adventures - if you are never more than a days hike from service, or don't wheel with folks who rely on you to help not hinder the outing - you do not need redundancy near as much.
Second reason - maintaining voltage during a high draw situation such as winching or powering accessories.

When winching the draw is real high for a single battery. Not only will winch slow and weaken in a long pull - the cycles are brutal. And as voltage drops - the cables windings and brushes run hot. Many times a winch fails and the fault is laid at the winch - where the reality is it was operated at low voltage by a long pull with little rest - sometimes the ONLY option (don't stop to rest winch while vehicle is hanging by a "thread"!!!).

I had a single on a TJ - one outing I sat at top of tough hill with line ready - half of the 12 rig crew needed winch help. My stock battery toasted a week later from cycling too deeply. And the lower power at the winch became very noticeable.

Other reasons:
Protection from stranding.
Ability to run work lights on YOUR OWN rig from an isolated source if primary system fails.
"Critical" items like air compressor, cb radio, camp site electronics etc are removed from main battery draw.
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Unread 09-30-2013, 09:03 AM   #19
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Didn't you just state a cheaper alternative to this system? I'd just install a Diehard Platinum and not wheel alone.
Okay so you and a buddy are wheeling - he gets broke and stuck and you work the winch but halfway out your winch fails and takes out the charging system due to the high draw and a blown alternator. Now both are stuck. How far to service?

The group I wheel with go out days away from help. I for one do NOT want to be the guy who isn't self sustaining and becomes a hindrance to THEIR adventure. Not fun letting friends down.
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Unread 09-30-2013, 10:19 AM   #20
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Any thought to install a battery on the bumper next to the winch, didn't they do that back in the day?
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Unread 10-02-2013, 08:54 AM   #21
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Any thought to install a battery on the bumper next to the winch, didn't they do that back in the day?
Well yes "they" did. They also ran radiators with no pressure cap, leaded gasoline and carburetor, crank start and manual timing assist. And over the years what has been learned is priceless...

Not a good thing to have a battery on the front bumper. You DO drive on the road right? think of small fender bender spraying everything with acid... as well as a short and resultant spark right at the source of hydrogen gas. Even a mat or gel can explode in impact.
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Unread 10-04-2013, 08:58 PM   #22
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Good point, my short term plan is a marine battery case in the back, take it out if needed. Not elegant, but provides a backup till the funds are saved for the full monty.
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Unread 11-19-2013, 10:42 AM   #23
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The guys at Genesis just released a very detailed video highlighting all the features of their system.


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Unread 11-19-2013, 06:56 PM   #24
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What's that kit with batteries run you. My ARB fridge has made me require a jump in the dead heat of summer due to power needed to keep everything cool. This would be perfect
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Unread 11-20-2013, 01:11 PM   #25
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Didn't you have a Benchmark System in before? I ask because I am contemplating getting the Genesis System and am curious if any of the mods form putting in the Benchmark affected how the Genesis install went. Thanks
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this is a nice system. I may have to look at this when I start the lighting toys. Thanx for posting it.
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Unread 11-21-2013, 04:47 PM   #27
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What's that kit with batteries run you. My ARB fridge has made me require a jump in the dead heat of summer due to power needed to keep everything cool. This would be perfect
http://www.genesisoffroad.com/store/...ttery-Kit.html

At this time: $479.00 plus the batteries of your choice.
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Didn't you have a Benchmark System in before? I ask because I am contemplating getting the Genesis System and am curious if any of the mods form putting in the Benchmark affected how the Genesis install went. Thanks
I did have the Benchmark kit. It was a simple swap over.
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I did have the Benchmark kit. It was a simple swap over.
What made you decide to swap them?
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Unread 11-25-2013, 11:38 AM   #30
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A buddy wanted the Benchmark kit so I figured it was time to upgrade. Eventually ill be doing an LS swap and the benchmark kit takes up alot more space in the engine compartment that will need to be free for the LS
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