Now I remember why I dont have a Auto. Mine has been gittin 20, split on dirt road and highway. Break that baby in right. I had a ford once that got 10. Could be worse. But you know, it is a Jeep, Coool.
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2007 Wrangler, 2dr. 33" Claws, Procomp Bead Sim 16", Fabtech 3" lift, 2,200 Watt Box w/Jenson Dvd/Xm Player, Dented Tailgate, Cracked Windshield, tree stump ding, I love it!
Here's the thing: We wouldn't even be talking about mpg if what this is really about is that gas prices are high and going up. And I'm wondering what it's going to feel like when I finish paying off my 48 mos.--It'll be 2011--and gas is $5/gal.
The reason they don't make a power plant that gets better mileage is because they know that you guys'll pay $3/gal for a Jeep that gets 12 mpg. Like bmac55said, it's the market. I say, the more noise about mpg, the sooner we get a more effecient engine.
I say, the more noise about mpg, the sooner we get a more effecient engine.
Exactly my point. If everyone would make the effort to complain about the mpg and stop just saying "it's a brick, live with it", maybe you would see better mpg out of the Wrangler.
Gas prices are high. We should be pissed that Wranglers get crummy mileage. Wouldn't you like to save money? Doesn't it make sense to have more options available? What's wrong with offering a diesel, a hemi (for those who want it) and even and alternative fuel Wrangler? Seems to me it would make the Wrangler a much more versatile vehicle with options like these. Even more than having painted fender flares. I really do dig both the new 2DR and 4DR JKs.
this is a Jeep Forum Jeepers creepers, maybe you should run away ( hopefully from this forum) and join a american debate team or somethang?
Originally Posted by jeepers3
You can't really blame the people. It's what they are trained to do as a result of the American school system - just take the spoonfed answers that someone gives you as the truth, rather than thinking for yourself. These days, thinking for yourself in school will get you put on Ritalin. It's actually part of a vast government conspiracy to rid the American people of their ability to think at all, so they do not question the government's debasing of the Constitution and are more than happy to succumb to the government's fear mongering and exchange their rights for so-called "security" all the while becoming enslaved to pay for the every growing increase in government and the notion that it is here to solve all your problems for you - a notion that the American people are quickly becoming addicted to - but hey, that's a topic for another thread. (:
I also think that Hummers got tagged as evil due to their high expense. There is an element of classism attached to Hummers that just doesn't apply to cheaper SUVs, such as the Wrangler.
If I am not mistaken but aren'n you supposed to be using 87oct in the 07JK. I beleive it says on page 321 of your manual " The use of premium gasoline is not recommended. The use of premium gasoline will provide no benifit over high quality regular gosoline, and in some circumstances MAY result in POOR performance." I run 87 in mine and around town I average 17mpg and highway is around 21mpg. I would say put in the cheap stuff and say money for more toys!!!
if jeeps were fuel efficient no one would buy the caliber , anyways wouldn't 4.10 gears use more gas, that in mind you can't expect the best gas mileage, i don;t know of many suv's that get over 20, except a RAV4.
yeah not sure now on miles. dont think the dealer ever calibrated my spedo for the large tires but if i got my percentage right on the tire increase (35" tires) i am getting around 12.5-15 mpg with an auto (so thats the 4.10 gears). I do wish mpg were better but i have bigger tires and a gear ratio less friendly to mpg. Overall it would be great to see better mpg for both economical reasons and for those who get the chance to do major off road weekends with no gas stations around.
Just took my jeep in for it's first service, abs recall and having them resetting the computer for the larger tires (he said they could do the 285/75R16 even tho I've heard 32" tires is the largest they can reset for, service guy probably doesn't even really know that!?) I'll run a tank after that and see what my numbers come out to. By the last tank, I got 18.8 mpg (my calculations, the trip computers read 20.5mpg) which is much better than the last few tanks where I got avg. of 17mpg. I went to a different gas station for this last tank, a BP as opposed to the cheapo Sams Club gas I've been using. I wonder if that had anything to do with it? I have the 3.21 gears, 33" tires, 2dr. hardtop and a 50/50 blend of hwy and intown driving, no offroad in the last tank.
BTW, after owning a 2000 TJ SE (4cyl) which got barely 16mpg on average, and when I put in the "Truck" plugs, i got about 12mpg. So this JK is a vast improvement already!
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i really don't think so. the idea behind the wrangler isn't efficiency. it is designed for a specific group of people. granted it rides better now, but i haven't seen any real improved gas mileage posted over the TJ (don't split hairs about mods and driving habits, people).
and think about how upset people were just over this engine change...can you imagine the fallout over a hybrid?
i've also not been impressed with the engine output specs for hybrids. it may be fine for moving a honda down I-95, but it's not going to cut pulling a jeep up a tree. or out of the mud. or maybe even your driveway.
Originally Posted by Hank Venture
It's like someone with a fever is yelling at my pants!