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post #1 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
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Found out my local dealer's stance on lift kits

The wife has an 09 Unlimited and hit a deer recently. I had the dealership I bought it from do the work and I picked it up last Friday. Well, I decided to drive on over to the service dept. and ask about their stance on lifting versus my lifetime powertrain warranty. Their stance? Any lift whatsoever will completely void my powertrain warranty. No exceptions. That is unless, I buy the Mopar lift kit. Their price? $2500 and the lift is 2". I laughed and told the guy I could buy the same lift for a few hundred bucks. He said he knew and was sympathetic but the regional Mopar guy put the word out to deny powertrain claims if there is any lift.
Not that it will deter me for too long, but make sure you check with your dealership and see if they are flexible at all. I even tried to tell him it would be re-geared to stock. No dice. I can throw a set of 35's on there (with flare cutting), smoke a tranny, bolt the stock wheels back on and get a replacement. But, I can add a 2" budget boost and some 33's, smoke a tranny, and am denied? Bummer.


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post #2 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 12:45 PM
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Considering the cost of a tranny or engine, I say lift it and keep the stock equipment. If you have a major, costly problem, remove the lift and swap back on the stock wheels and tires and go to the dealer.

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post #3 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 12:53 PM
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find another dealer. They are dead wrong.

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post #4 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 01:11 PM
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find another dealer. They are dead wrong.
Agree the first thing I did when driving off the lot with my new 2010 JKU i went to service and asked about a lift. Doesn't void the warranty with after market lift is what i was told. Also the "factory" lift (Mopar) was only 1500 from my service department here.

I would look around.
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post #5 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 01:36 PM
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find another dealer. They are dead wrong.
Yes, they are wrong. I asked both dealers in my area any if it doesn't directly affect the items under warranty then they cannot deny the claim.
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post #6 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 01:44 PM
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They couldnt deny you your claim, They would HAVE to prove that the lift made your trans, motor, ect... explode. Thats like them telling you, we cant warrentee your motor due to a bad lifter tick, because you put a exhaust on it. If it is not a direct cause to the problem they cant do anything. I work for a dealer and i just talked to the service manageer and got the same responce from him. Find a new dealer.
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post #7 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 02:06 PM
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Seems like the common response is find a new dealer, but if the dealer can't specifically deny warranty coverage for a lift wouldn't it be better to hold the dealer accountable and make them fix it?

I suppose the risk is that you piss off the dealer and your Jeep spends more time in the shop then on the trail.
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post #8 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 02:57 PM
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My Jeep Dealer in Scottsdale said no warranty issues with a lift up to 3 inches.
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post #9 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 03:14 PM
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thats stupid. go to a different dealer
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post #10 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 08:51 PM
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That is definitely messed up. I actually got my lift installed by the dealer when I purchased my Jeep. I have had a few issues relating to my brake lines and the transer case shifter bushing that have been fixed by a different dealer under warranty with no questions asked.

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post #11 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 09:02 PM
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They couldnt deny you your claim, They would HAVE to prove that the lift made your trans, motor, ect... explode.
Yes they could, and no they don't. All they have to do is tell you, "we deny your claim. If you disagree, take it somewhere else, or take us to court."

Sure - you might win in the long run, if you have enough time, money and effort to put into your cause. But until you do, they can deny whatever they want.
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post #12 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 10:45 PM
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Dealer here said they would work with the Jeep owner on lifts up to 3 inches, anything over that they would not honor warranty claims specifically related to the lift such as u joints, steering problems etc. However, the tranny goes south, engine throws a rod, gages malfunction, etc. things unrelated to lift, they would still honor the warranty.

In reality, have never had a problem with the local dealer on lift and non-lift related issues. Even after my Jeep was out of warranty, the dealer has treated me very well.

I really think how dealers handle warranty claims is based on perceptions of lifted Jeeps by the guy in the front office. If he is a "car guy" and understands that some vehicle owners will mod their Jeeps he is going to have a pretty liberal view of warranty claims on modified vehicles. If the owner of the dealership just wants to move units out the door and is not a car guy, he may not be as liberal on warranty claims. I am sure he also relies on input from his service advisors and their interpretation of how the warranty applies on modified vehicles.

I would go find another dealership to work on and service my Jeep and build a relationship with the service advisors so they don't just see you as a just a customer, but as somebody that they want to keep happy so you will buy their product again.

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post #13 of 24 Old 07-12-2010, 10:50 PM
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I got a pinion seal replaced a couple years ago on my '03 under warranty, and they didn't even mention the budget boost and 32's i had on there at the time. it's a Jeep, they should expect that (within reason, of course). I paid my warranty deductible, and i was on my way.

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post #14 of 24 Old 07-13-2010, 01:06 AM
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Glad I got a 07 with no warranty left
It would be worth it to go to a different dealer for that type of work even if its out of town...

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Thanks fellas. McKBrew- your Jeep is what we are after look-wise. Ours is Jeep Green and we have already peeled the stickers and the trail-rated badge. Originally, the wife wanted a small lift and 33's with black wheels. Then she got really gung ho and wanted 4" lift and 35's. Not sure which direction we'll end up, but the black wheels are a must for her with a mud tire. The dealer really disappointed me. I do not expect to completely destroy the Jeep and expect them to cover it. But, if the motor slings a rod, I expect it should be covered. I have that kind of relationship with the local Ford dealer. I like to mod and within reason, they say nothing. This is a very good forum. I frequent a few select Ford forums due to the members knowledge and willingness to help. I would rate this as good as any of those. Thanks again.

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