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Unread 06-26-2013, 02:46 PM   #16
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There is none such a thing as a "Top Cop" unless he or she is the Chief of Police, then it may be okay to say that.
LOL we SOOOOO agree on that. I MEANT top cop exactly as you just defined.

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Unread 06-26-2013, 02:53 PM   #17
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um... so, now my question is do yall think a JKUR would be able to handle a 16ft flatbed trailer? I dont have a trailer brake hook up in my JK...

I am more concerned with safety than the letter of the law... I dont expect to get ticketed either way... just want to do damage to either vehicle..

so, what do yall think? safe/smart or unsafe/dumb to flat-tow my CJ 550 miles behing by JKUR?

thanks for the plethora of info on GVWR and all that other stuff..
I would have no issues flat towing a Texas tagged CJ behind a Texas tagged JKUR - even without brakes. Just (so that you don't get surprised and thus emotionally confrontational if pulled over) keep in mind... there may be cause for roadway discussion.

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Make sure all your lights work etc so there is NO OTHER REASON to pull you over and you'll be okay. I would hesitate to pull it on a 16 footer - thats three times longer than the JK. Jus kidding but close - my reasoning there is that flat towing is very little tongue weight (just the weight of the bar set) while a trailer has to have at least 10% of the trailers weight on the tongue to handle well.
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Unread 06-26-2013, 02:58 PM   #18
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I would have no issues flat towing a CJ behind a JKUR. Just (so that you don't get surprised and thus emotionally confrontational if pulled over) keep in mind....

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Make sure all your lights work etc so there is NO OTHER REASON to pull you over and you'll be okay. I would hesitate to pull it on a 16 footer - thats three times longer than the JK (jus kidding but close). But my reasoning there is that flat towing is very little tongue weight (just the weight of the bar set) while a trailer has to have at least 10% of the trailers weight on the tongue to handle well.

thanks for the info

ok, well if I flat-tow it, I will get a set of the magnetic lights for tail lights.. since the CJ isnt wired to do the trailer light action.
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Unread 06-26-2013, 05:55 PM   #19
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Yep. You "should" have a breakaway brake set up if the dinghy detatched from hitch it stops itself. That's minimum

A 16 foot flatbed will raise the weight quite a bit and may have hookups you don't have.
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Unread 06-27-2013, 08:28 AM   #20
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if the dinghy detatched from hitch it stops itself.
Doesn't that happen automatically when the tow bar becomes a vault pole?

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Unread 06-29-2013, 01:40 AM   #21
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Doesn't that happen automatically when the tow bar becomes a vault pole?

LOL.....yes. But the guy with the ticket book likes to see the little chain or wire for the disconnect brake.
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Unread 07-01-2013, 08:58 AM   #22
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LOL.....yes. But the guy with the ticket book likes to see the little chain or wire for the disconnect brake.
And here in Tx that guy also likes to see the safety chains crossed. Most WILL pull over if they see em parallel - but usually just to politely warn.
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Unread 07-13-2013, 09:29 PM   #23
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I'm in the process of flat towing my yj with my jku from NC to FL- ~900 miles. I've passed/been passed by quite a few police officers without a second glance. Use magnetic trailer lights, keep it 5 below, leave plenty of space, and don't do anything stupid.
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Unread 12-12-2013, 01:11 PM   #24
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I would have no issues flat towing a Texas tagged CJ behind a Texas tagged JKUR - even without brakes. Just (so that you don't get surprised and thus emotionally confrontational if pulled over) keep in mind... there may be cause for roadway discussion.

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Make sure all your lights work etc so there is NO OTHER REASON to pull you over and you'll be okay. I would hesitate to pull it on a 16 footer - thats three times longer than the JK. Jus kidding but close - my reasoning there is that flat towing is very little tongue weight (just the weight of the bar set) while a trailer has to have at least 10% of the trailers weight on the tongue to handle well.
ok, I am going to be flat-towing the Jeep from TX to AL. my JK is tagged in alabama so it will be a TX tagged CJ behind an AL tagged JK... I dont think that will be an issue... just need to show the title etc.. but, my plan is to cruise at 65...

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I'm in the process of flat towing my yj with my jku from NC to FL- ~900 miles. I've passed/been passed by quite a few police officers without a second glance. Use magnetic trailer lights, keep it 5 below, leave plenty of space, and don't do anything stupid.
how did the trip go? did you remove the driveshafts in the YJ? any advice?

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Unread 12-13-2013, 09:44 AM   #25
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ok, I am going to be flat-towing the Jeep from TX to AL. my JK is tagged in alabama so it will be a TX tagged CJ behind an AL tagged JK... I dont think that will be an issue... just need to show the title etc.. but, my plan is to cruise at 65...
As long as you have the basics - (LIGHTS and safty chains) probably no problem. As good friend (hiway patrolman) gave me some of HIS insight when I brought up this discussion - a motor home dingy towing a Jeep - he tends to believe they do it all the time - enough that he makes sure they have brakes, breakaway, chains lights etc up to code. Usually just warning unless its a gross violation.

When he sees a truck or etc flat towing he sees the likelihood that its a one time thing so as long as it has the basics (lights and chains) and appears safe enough to get him down the road he doesn't give it a second thought...
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Unread 12-13-2013, 10:25 AM   #26
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ok, I am going to be flat-towing the Jeep from TX to AL. my JK is tagged in alabama so it will be a TX tagged CJ behind an AL tagged JK... I dont think that will be an issue... just need to show the title etc.. but, my plan is to cruise at 65...



how did the trip go? did you remove the driveshafts in the YJ? any advice?

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Trip went fine. Stay on the interstate and avoid curvy roads. Plan your fuel stops b/c you're more likely to get in trouble making tight turns and you can't reverse. Like I said earlier, had many LEO's pass without giving a second look. As for the YJ, I didn't remove anything. Just followed the manuals instructions for flat towing. Transmission in gear and transfer case neutral. Key in the position to unlock the steering wheel but keeping electrics off.

Oh! And ignore the annoyed looks by people in a hurry. Your safety is more important than their time.
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Unread 12-13-2013, 02:32 PM   #27
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Trip went fine. Stay on the interstate and avoid curvy roads. Plan your fuel stops b/c you're more likely to get in trouble making tight turns and you can't reverse. Like I said earlier, had many LEO's pass without giving a second look. As for the YJ, I didn't remove anything. Just followed the manuals instructions for flat towing. Transmission in gear and transfer case neutral. Key in the position to unlock the steering wheel but keeping electrics off.

Oh! And ignore the annoyed looks by people in a hurry. Your safety is more important than their time.
awesome! thanks for the info.. yeah my trip is about 550 miles total.. about 500 of that is on I-20.. so that biggest thing will be fuel stops and getting to and from the interstate...

thanks again for the info.
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Unread 12-13-2013, 02:33 PM   #28
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As long as you have the basics - (LIGHTS and safty chains) probably no problem. As good friend (hiway patrolman) gave me some of HIS insight when I brought up this discussion - a motor home dingy towing a Jeep - he tends to believe they do it all the time - enough that he makes sure they have brakes, breakaway, chains lights etc up to code. Usually just warning unless its a gross violation.

When he sees a truck or etc flat towing he sees the likelihood that its a one time thing so as long as it has the basics (lights and chains) and appears safe enough to get him down the road he doesn't give it a second thought...
thanks for the info...
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Unread 12-14-2013, 02:44 PM   #29
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Unread 12-24-2013, 04:01 PM   #30
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Well I am going to have to put my CJ on a trailer back to bama. The tires are about 15 years old and I am pretty sure they would self destruct at highway speeds. I will post some pictures of my jeep later on.
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