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11-12-2010, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spank
Insurance or GAP in this situation is a moot point. If your Jeep that was built this year catches on fire from simply driving it, Chrysler should step up to the plate and take care of everything. They should have people running around making every effort possible to replace your vehicle at no cost or effort on your part. This isn't some honest mistake or simple manufacturing flaw where a ****ty tire popped or the paint on your hood flaked off. The damn thing caught on fire after you drove your child in it.
There simply is no excuse for ANY new vehicle catching on fire. Ever. Period.
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Unfortunately this is well documented for every JK that has caught fire. It is a manufacturing flaw. If you look underneath the vehicle the stock skid plate is a friggin shovel. It will scoop anything and everything and hold it there until it ignites if you're not careful.
Not to be a total dick but in every Jeep commercial there are small white words on the bottom of the screen.  Same with any sportscar, motorcycle, or any vehicle for that matter. Professional driver on closed course. Do not attempt.. I find it extremely hard to believe that the OP or anyone who has had the misfortune of their vehicle burning collected that much debris on any paved road. If you're going to offroad take the extra minute to look over your rig before and after for your own safety.
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11-13-2010, 12:19 AM
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maybe they shouldnt of put a skid plate covering the automatic tranny then 
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11-13-2010, 12:30 AM
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Time to swap in a hemi!
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11-13-2010, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandlapper3396
...take the extra minute to look over your rig before and after for your own safety.
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Unfortunately, a lot of people don't believe they should have to do that.
Take those who run their engines dry of oil. They get indignant when it is suggested they should be checking the oil level on a regular basis.
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11-13-2010, 03:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank
Insurance or GAP in this situation is a moot point. If your Jeep that was built this year catches on fire from simply driving it, Chrysler should step up to the plate and take care of everything. They should have people running around making every effort possible to replace your vehicle at no cost or effort on your part. This isn't some honest mistake or simple manufacturing flaw where a ****ty tire popped or the paint on your hood flaked off. The damn thing caught on fire after you drove your child in it.
There simply is no excuse for ANY new vehicle catching on fire. Ever. Period.
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For leaves and debris? I'd say it's your own responsibility to check. It seems well documented enough that they collect debris. If you aren't checking then the issue isn't a Chrysler problem but your own. If it was something to do with a brake line rupture then I would tend to agree.
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11-13-2010, 03:59 AM
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**** it, lets do it
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love them jk's!
damn chrysler
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11-13-2010, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nam1
For leaves and debris? I'd say it's your own responsibility to check. It seems well documented enough that they collect debris. If you aren't checking then the issue isn't a Chrysler problem but your own. If it was something to do with a brake line rupture then I would tend to agree.
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I don't agree at all. Jeep strongly advertises this vehicle's off road ability. Nowhere do they have some warning or sticker saying you have to clean debris from the skid plate. Just because this group of hard core owners knows about this flaw doesn't mean the average Joe does. I'm three weeks into my first Jeep and this is the first I've heard of it.
This is a safety defect, plain and simple.
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11-13-2010, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nam1
For leaves and debris? I'd say it's your own responsibility to check. It seems well documented enough that they collect debris. If you aren't checking then the issue isn't a Chrysler problem but your own. If it was something to do with a brake line rupture then I would tend to agree.
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I disagree but also agree. If it's a design flaw, and it is documented, then it needs to be fixed BY CHRYSLER, NOT THE OWNER. However, until this is fixed, unfortunately it's up to the owner.
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11-13-2010, 06:31 AM
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I don't agree at all. Jeep strongly advertises this vehicle's off road ability. Nowhere do they have some warning or sticker saying you have to clean debris from the skid plate. Just because this group of hard core owners knows about this flaw doesn't mean the average Joe does. I'm three weeks into my first Jeep and this is the first I've heard of it.
This is a safety defect, plain and simple.
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please go ahead and get a class action law suit going then if you truly believe that its a safety issue that foreign objects can become lodged/attached to a jeep.
in reality, warning label or not, you should be inspecting your jeep before and after wheeling. even on road cars, you should always be checking things.
a month or so ago, i ran into a guy that hadn't popped his jk's hood in who knows how long, but he had a packrat nest right above his battery. damn chrysler for not preventing pack rats from building a nest. or even warning this guy it could happen. 
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11-13-2010, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rwunsche
I don't agree at all. Jeep strongly advertises this vehicle's off road ability. Nowhere do they have some warning or sticker saying you have to clean debris from the skid plate. Just because this group of hard core owners knows about this flaw doesn't mean the average Joe does. I'm three weeks into my first Jeep and this is the first I've heard of it.
This is a safety defect, plain and simple.
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Not only do people think they shouldn't have to inspect things periodically, most don't read the Owners Manual.
This is from the 2008 Owner's Manual. It's in the other years' manuals, too.
"Also check for accumulations of vegetation
or brush that could become a fire hazard, or conceal
damage to fuel lines, brake hoses, axle pinion seals, and
propeller shafts."
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11-13-2010, 08:05 AM
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I just shed a tear for your jeep. Sorry to see what happened, hopefully that will not deter you from purchasing another jeep.
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11-13-2010, 08:26 AM
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Screw the Jeep, let them total it. In fact, push for it being totaled. You do not want them to rebuild that thing.
Considering how cold it looks there, how could the tranny be overheated if he was just taking his kid to school?
Glad you and your kid are fine.
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11-13-2010, 11:51 AM
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damn chrysler for not preventing pack rats from building a nest. or even warning this guy it could happen. |
Now that's funny. 
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11-13-2010, 12:25 PM
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It brings up a good point. How many of us actually check under our Jeeps after off roading?
I do it pretty religiously, I've had tons of mud compacted up under there before. I think everyone should make it a point to check under their rig on a routine basis. I don't need the owners manual, or a warning sticker to tell me to check certain things.
If anything, we should learn something from the OP's situation and build on it instead of whining about design flaws and such. People complain when there are too many safety features, then they complain when there are not enough. I don't care if it's your car, your truck, or your Jeep it is your job to inspect it routinely for safety issues. Too many vehicle owners don't look at this stuff, and then want to pass the blame to the manufacturer when something happens.
That's another reason why I appreciate my Jeep right there. Before owning it, I didn't pay nearly as much attention to any vehicle. Now I pay more attention to both of my vehicles.
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11-13-2010, 01:55 PM
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Here in Utah it's mainly sagebrush and tumbleweeds, but both of those burn extremely well....I'm sorry for your Jeep, but glad I read this post....I'll be much more careful in the future about checking my undercarriage....
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