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post #1 of 25 Old 08-17-2013, 09:47 AM Thread Starter
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Driving without esp

Just did the wheel dance and shut off ESP. Has anyone had alot of experience with it off? Is it safe to drive around like this? How diffrent is it? I was tired of the brakes kicking on going around exit ramps

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post #2 of 25 Old 08-17-2013, 06:44 PM
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It will drive like a vehicle without ESP.

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post #3 of 25 Old 08-17-2013, 06:54 PM
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Right. Like every other vehicle before big brother had to protect us from ourselves.
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post #4 of 25 Old 08-17-2013, 08:12 PM
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Driving without ESP will prevent you from seeing into the future and unforeseen circumstances and may cause accident.

What it will actually do is prevent your rear brakes from being done at 35000 miles. The ESP is always applying brake pressure. For every set of front brakes you'll go through two sets of rear. My rear brake pads literally fell apart in my hands. The fronts were still at 70% !!!!

It did save my butt last winter though when I hit a patch of black ice and went sideways. It corrected itself and straightened me out I was impressed. But for daily driving in normal conditions its a waste.

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post #5 of 25 Old 08-17-2013, 08:15 PM
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i hate all the newer driving aids cars have. We all know in inclement weather to slow down right?

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post #6 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 05:06 AM
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i hate all the newer driving aids cars have. We all know in inclement weather to slow down right?
Nope, we are all morons who can't take care of ourselves.
That is why we need big government to take care of us.
Thanks Democrats.

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post #7 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 08:55 AM
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post #8 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 11:51 AM
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I agree with the sorry nanny state we live in, but just a point of order....we all live with a black box in our JKs, so, if in an accident this info is available to the authorities and insurance companies. Should they determine that having the ESP unit disconnected either resulted in or contributed to the accident...opps! Just sayin....and yes, the ****** are largely responsible for this state of affairs.

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post #9 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 12:47 PM
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Shhhh!!! The NSA is reading this message right now.
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post #10 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 02:11 PM
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Jeez, I just copy them now on everything....make it easy for them.

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post #11 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 06:56 PM
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I remember owning quite a few vehicles with 4 wheel drum brakes and the days before antilock brakes. These newer vehicles leave little to develop driver technique and take alot of the control away from the driver. If I could eliminate the features and not be at fault in the event of an incident or accident ,sure I'd do the dance too.

Copy that big brother?
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post #12 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 07:10 PM
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Why all the hate on ESP?
It has saved thousands of lives and significantly reduced the number of rollovers, especially in SUVs.
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post #13 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 07:15 PM
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It will drive like a vehicle without ESP.
This ^^^^; mine has been off for a while - no issues and all the better with onramps.
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post #14 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 07:19 PM
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Why all the hate on ESP?
It has saved thousands of lives and significantly reduced the number of rollovers, especially in SUVs.
Read the thread : burns through rear brakes prematurely and is a real PIA for those of us with larger tires (when going around tight turns).
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post #15 of 25 Old 08-18-2013, 07:23 PM
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Worn rear brakes are common these days, but not because of ESP.
My other vehicle wears out the rears faster than the front, and it doesn't have ESP, and it's front wheel drive.
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