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post #1 of 22 Old 04-29-2012, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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Does the 2012 "need" the "loop"????

Looking at "loop delete" kits.
Do you think that the 3.6 "needs" the loop to stay "balanced"?
I'm sure that Chrysler put the stupid thing there for a reason..
If I get a Loop delete kit, do you think I"m going to void a bunch of engine warranties???

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post #2 of 22 Old 04-29-2012, 06:46 PM
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Yes, twice.

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I donít know if it would void the warranty or not but why mess with it to begin with? Chrysler engineers are no dummies and added it for good reason. It also doesnít hang down below the frame like that has been reported on forums in the past either.
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Ok, so which exhaust kit do you recommend, the Y pipe without the loop deletion kit?
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have you seen the teraflex exhaust spacer kit

and look at this video
http://youtu.be/s2CQD68LHSg

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have you seen the teraflex exhaust spacer kit

and look at this video
http://youtu.be/s2CQD68LHSg
Yes, along with a dozen threads on how the bolts don't fit, how they loosen up and are total crap until they rust in place...

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bolt ons are not crap, the reason they don't work is because people bolt them on too tight and they bend making a break in the seal. or people don't put them on straight. just put these on my teachers jeep and no troubles 2 weeks in. have someone hold them in place till you get the bolts tight enough. and if you really don't want a leak just weld them in place
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I have recently seen a nice little skid to cover it. I would protect it rather than remove it.

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I have recently seen a nice little skid to cover it. I would protect it rather than remove it.
It's not a protection issue, it's the issue of the driveline contacting the exhaust system when you lift it. Therefore melting the boot and destroying the CV joint.

So far the reviews I see on the spacers are 20% positive, 80% negative.
I try to give members of this forum the benefit of the doubt and assume that the ones doing their own work aren't complete morons.

Just my opinion.

So, can you replace the Y pipe without the loop delete, and be okay?
Or should I save the 300$, buy a replacement Tom Woods driveline for 500$ and call it a day.
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even if you put a skid when you put more than 3 inch of lift the driveshaft interfere with the exhaust that why teraflex develop this kit to get back the exhaust far enough to put a 5-6 inch lift without interference

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It's not a protection issue, it's the issue of the driveline contacting the exhaust system when you lift it. Therefore melting the boot and destroying the CV joint.

So far the reviews I see on the spacers are 20% positive, 80% negative.

I try to give members of this forum the benefit of the doubt and assume that the ones doing their own work aren't complete morons.

Just my opinion.

So, can you replace the Y pipe without the loop delete, and be okay?
Or should I save the 300$, buy a replacement Tom Woods driveline for 500$ and call it a day.
I'm with you. I looked at the Teraflex spacers and decided against them. I think the way i'm going to do it is just have an exhaust shop fab a new section of pipe. When dealing with a section that short it can't cost too much and you don't have to worry about anything coming loose.
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Ok, so which exhaust kit do you recommend, the Y pipe without the loop deletion kit?
It looks like you donít have the JKU which the aFe kit would work perfect so Iím not exactly sure what will work for you. Just recently Rancho introduced an exhaust kit so you might want to check it out. Wish I knew more, good luck.
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It looks like you donít have the JKU which the aFe kit would work perfect so Iím not exactly sure what will work for you. Just recently Rancho introduced an exhaust kit so you might want to check it out. Wish I knew more, good luck.
I do have the JKU, its just when I start window shopping I see both the Afe Y pipe kit, and the Y pipe kit with the loop deleter...????
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I have the aFe standard kit, non-delete and it works great for me.
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I donít know if it would void the warranty or not but why mess with it to begin with? Chrysler engineers are no dummies and added it for good reason. It also doesnít hang down below the frame like that has been reported on forums in the past either.
X2....It is there for a reason. If they could get away with out the added cost of putting it in the jeep they would have.

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