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Unread 03-22-2007, 10:32 AM   #1
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Defination of a "new" jeep at a dealer

I've been talking to this dealer about an 07 Sahara. The vehicle was made in November and has 550 miles on it. Right now they consider it a Dealer demo.

When I asked about buying it they told me it was a new vehicle and the only discount would be $.10 a mile.. Or roughly $50. I didn't think that was acceptable, so I left.

To be fair I do have a discount through Chrysler, so we are right at the invoice point.

The vehicle has every option I was minus the Sirius raido. I countered with them paying an extended MX plan, but they declined.

Am I making to much out of this?

Deal is the Sahara at, or just below invoice with the power group, hardtop, 18" wheels, locking fuel cap, floor mats made in Nov 06, with 550 miles on it. A saleman has been driving it, for $23,570

I can order a new one with the same options (minus 18" wheels) plus Sirius for $23,800.

Thoughts?

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Unread 03-22-2007, 10:38 AM   #2
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It has been beat for that 500 miles. That thing is used. I would order one not take a used on off of the lot. Thy let people drive it, that makes it used. By the definition on the law it is new since it was never titled, but I would pass for sure.
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Unread 03-22-2007, 10:43 AM   #3
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It is not "new" with that many miles on the odometer. If there were just under 100 miles of "test drives" .. I might say new - but barely.

I would offer them $1,000 to $1,500 under their asking because of the extra miles, or tell them that you will pay full price for one with 0 miles on it. It is your money that you are spending - you decide how much you want to spend it.

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Unread 03-22-2007, 10:49 AM   #4
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We went round and round on the price...They refuse to lower the price any..

I think I'll just order a new one.

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Unread 03-22-2007, 10:55 AM   #5
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Just remember these things aren't that rare, not nearly as they'd have you believe. Some guy told me that if I could come in and order mine on last Sunday that it could guarantee a 8 week delivery, but if I waited til the Monday (next day) it would take the full 12 weeks. I asked him how that would make a difference and he stumbled all over himself. Clown.

I'm honestly thinking about waiting until the end of the year when they get marked down, or to see what comes out new for the '08.
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Unread 03-22-2007, 10:55 AM   #6
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If the vehicle has been officially put into service (Date warranty started)( you can ask the dealer what the service date is) then it is considered a used vehicle.
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Unread 03-22-2007, 11:09 AM   #7
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We went round and round on the price...They refuse to lower the price any..

I think I'll just order a new one.

Thanks!

Ken
Order it from a different dealer. That'll show em!
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Unread 03-22-2007, 12:32 PM   #8
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Order it from a different dealer. That'll show em!

Absolutely!!
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Unread 03-22-2007, 01:05 PM   #9
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There's plenty out there and the ordered units are moving much more quickly. Tie yourself to no dealership and get the best price you can. Most are fools still trying to play the rarity card. No fly!
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Unread 03-22-2007, 01:44 PM   #10
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I think you're making too much of it. It has everything you want and is otherwise the perfect Jeep for you, and the price is excellent. 500 miles is nothing. I'd buy it for sure. Hell, I've had my Jeep for only 10 weeks or so and it has over 7200 miles on it. Starting off with 500 miles wouldn't make much difference.

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Unread 03-22-2007, 01:52 PM   #11
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Swagginman is correct.

Suggestion: Have no further sales dealings with that stealer/dealership.

Use the net and shop around. Driving 100 miles and having an extra $1,000 or 2 left in our pockets(considering trade and all) and/or getting exactly what we want is time well spent. At least it has been for us.

I have read of so many people in a frenzy to have one, be the first on their block, etc.

They take what they can get, not what they want...OR they place an order and agonize for months over it. They spend twenty thousand dollars or more on a vehicle sight unseen, no test drive, then are surprised and complain on forums when something doesn't work or was put together wrong, and the dealer/manufacturer won't/can't make it function to their satisfaction. They end up wasting weeks or months trying to get problems that existed at delivery resolved.

Patience can save you money, get you exactly what you want and give you a chance to thoroughly examine the actual vehicle you are considering buying before you commit any of your money.

We've bought more than 40 vehicles and never ordered one or bought a vehicle without test driving the actual vehicle we were considering purchasing. 'Try before you buy' has worked for us. All the whining on various auto forums tells me a lot of people didn't. Sure things can go wrong down the road, but why start out with problems that need to be resolved. Chrysler is not exactly known for quality control. With research and thorough test drives, one is a lot more likely to drive off happy and stay that way.

But, bottom line, it is your money. Just my $800,000.00+ worth.
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Unread 03-22-2007, 02:09 PM   #12
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I wouldn't buy that unless it was substantially discounted - even more than a typical used car w/500 miles. 500 miles from one owner that has a vested interest in taking care of his vehicle is very different from 500 test drive miles from many drivers that have a vested interest in pushing the vehicle a bit to see whether it will work for them.
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Unread 03-22-2007, 03:03 PM   #13
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That's the trouble with all that mileage, is that you don't know who drove it and what they did to it. Did some salesman pop the clutch and red line it when it got off the truck? You never know. Mine had 50 on it.
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Unread 03-22-2007, 05:19 PM   #14
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I think you're making too much of it. It has everything you want and is otherwise the perfect Jeep for you, and the price is excellent. 500 miles is nothing. I'd buy it for sure. Hell, I've had my Jeep for only 10 weeks or so and it has over 7200 miles on it. Starting off with 500 miles wouldn't make much difference.
the only one telling you to buy it on this thread flew from Alaska to Virgina to get one and drove 1000s of miles back to Alaska to get what he wants NOW

Hes never heard the saying "Patience is a virtue" Consider the source

i got my Sahara in a few days short of 8 weeks and got all of what i wanted on it.
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Unread 03-22-2007, 05:36 PM   #15
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That's the trouble with all that mileage, is that you don't know who drove it and what they did to it. Did some salesman pop the clutch and red line it when it got off the truck? You never know. Mine had 50 on it.
And what, it takes 50 miles to drive it off the truck? Even with 50 miles, someone can give it bad treatment. I don't think 10 times the miles results in 10 times the bad treatment. The dealer isn't interested in seeing the vehicles it tries to sell trashed any more than the people who want to buy them.
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