stopped by the Jeep dealership here in NB to take a look at the JK. they have three in right now. two of them are 2wd. they are definitely trying to appeal to the current H2/H3 driving group. they put 20s on the 2wd 'X'. and left the 2wd sahara stock. the 4wd 'X' has black rims on it. i think the black looks good, but they are not something i would wheel with. this dealership doesn't waste anytime throwing accessories on new jeeps. they have a TJ decked out in garvin wilderness accessories front and rear bumpers/tire carrier with winch, lift, wheels and tires. and a few others with lifts and tires, etc.
all three are unlimiteds and fully loaded, short of navigation which none of them have right now.
first impressions after crawling around them...
very nice. comfy interior, plenty of room. it still feels like a wrangler inside. i remember thinking the TJ's interior was too 'pretty' before i got mine. the interior of the JK is pretty, but it will become a normal sight within time. it definitely feels solid. when you shut the doors, it feels like a truck. they are much more solid than TJ doors. at the same time, it will totally have the jeep feeling with the doors off and top down. the rear cargo area is cavernous. if you fold the seats down, it's down right huge. i do think i would prefer seats that are completely removeable, but of course it would loose space that way.
anyway, i won't be getting one of these in this life time. just enjoyed checking out the next generation.
That's interesting about the rims. I discussed that with the head engineer and he said that the engineers had a big battle with marketing over the rim size. The market wanted bigger rims like 18's and 20's and the engineers got them to compromise smaller for better performance offroad.
One of the ways they did that was to allow marketing to offer a larger rim and tire package as an option.
I'd guess your comment about taking some market share away from the H-3 crowd would be pretty accurate. Bigger rims for the street folks are here to stay, so why limit your customer base?
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i was talking with one of the sales guys and he was basically saying they put the large BLING rims on them before they even put it on the lot because that's what people said they were wanting. they had the rims and tires at the dealership waiting to go on before they actually got the jeeps. people are going to buy it because it's big and now flashy with the wheels. and they won't even care that it's only 2wd. basically they will have a convertible SUV (as far as they are concerned) with big wheels. it's the appeal of the flashy hummers, but you can take the top down on these.
i would fully expect to see as many of these unlimited wranglers with as much chrome as hummers get, as you will offroad accessorized jeeps.
i'm interested in what's going to happen at SEMA this year. i would imagine a large amount of lifted, locked and skid'd up TKs, and an equal amount of chrome TKs.
already see where the jk is going by these pics bling bling dog who would take those rims on the trail
05 tj x, 4in procomp stage 2, aem intake, tbs, jet chip, 3312.50 15 on 15x10 weld supersingles, quick discos, 4.56s, detroit truetrac in the front and super 35 kit with a detroit in the rear,and other stuff
This goes to show that marketing is running Jeep, and that heritage and legacy are not the first consideration.
I'm really surprised that the new JK (at least the four-door version) is not the upcoming redesigned Liberty (for '08 I believe). I recall responding to a Jeep survey last year asking how often I wheel? I'm sure that their marketing wants to know, because if not a lot of people do, then they can make the case to start removing more expensive parts to keep the sticker price down.
P.S. So does Jeep now offer a stock boom box in the back?
if by boom box you are refering to a subwoofer, then yes there is a single 8" in a driver's side firing enclosure that attaches to the passenger side in the rear cargo area. not sure how it sounds, but it is part of the Infinity sound system that also incorporates coaxial speakers in the soundbar and a component set in the dash with the woofer in the normal loction and the tweeter in its own pod on top of the dash facing the driver.
I think waht some of us hardcore off roading ppl need to realize is that the old heritage of jeeps doesnt sell. If they market those 2wd things to the majority of ppl that will buy them to be just another suv. Then they will have the 2 door 4wd ones for us hardcore off roaders. If jeep doesnt market to the majority then they will end up not selling enough of the wranglers and perhaps quit making them. I think what marketing thought was the ppl like us iwth off road in mind would be able to look past this part of the marketing and realize that jeep still makes a great off roading vehicle. It's just that they need to sell these things. And who can hate on jeep for expanding their market base and trying to get mroe consumers. Now if they would have discontinued the 2 door and made them all like that pic then we would have a real reason to get mad