Originally Posted by ODAMO
Maybe what they should have done is never built the Commander and named the 4 door Wrangler the Commander. I think Jeep is headed towards having too many models that do nothing but overlap each other. When the Unlimited comes out I don't see that many Commanders being sold. With it's lack of off road ability you might as well get the Grand, it's more refined. The Cherokee was offered in 2 or 4 doors so why not the wrangler. Ford attempted to correct their mistake of doing a second attempt at a small bronco with the bronco II.... too bad it was no match for the original, in looks or performance.
So a vehicle with solid axles, 4:1 TC, Dana 44's with lockers f/r is lacking "that much" in off road ability because it's 20 inches longer?
I don't know about you people sometimes. Maybe around your neck of the woods a short wheelbase is the only "capable" vehicle, but around here I know my buddies Suburban with 3" of lift, cut fenders and 38's (with only the rear welded up) went places where a guy with an '04 Rubicon on 34's couldn't, especially on certain hills they climbed.
I'm quite sure our future '07 Unlimited Rubicon will be plenty capable of going anyplace we'll want it to go, and we'll be glad to have it when we go back to Moab. I doubt we'll miss the '05 GC we have now, as it just didn't cut it last time. Granted it is a Laredo, so we don't have the QD-II, which would've helped. A 2-door isn't big enough to hold the cages from my fiance's dog/cat grooming business, so that's out of the question.
Oh, and rock crawling on tight trails isn't the only "4-wheeling" people do. Some of us our quite happy just to go run easy trails like Shafers Trail in Moab . . . after driving 15 hours to get there. We all don't need to trailer extreme vehicles to go run black diamond trails to have fun. Having the Dana 44's, 4:1, lockers, etc. is just a little extra insurance that where ever we go on vacation we'll be able to go play and still drive back home as we won't have to thrash it as much to go places. Plus, it will make it more future proof, as I'm sure we'll eventually lift it, and it'll be nice to not have to change as much as a regular JK to keep it together.