Better BRAKES!!! - Page 2

GPV · 11-13-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SaharaBlackNo1

Absolutely not true. lol Have you seen how big SRT8 brakes are?

You've got to run at least a 20" rim and not many do that. Soon, I hope to have a report on what exactly it does take to mount them up. I'm just waiting on a bit of final info on the Ripp SC and cold starts. Someone brought up the issue of starting in temps colder than 25 degrees and while we don't have too many sub 25 degree days here in the DC area, I'd rather not destroy my engine/supercharger in the first month of use.

Dan from Burnsville couldn't get me off the phone fast enough when I wanted to pick his brain about doing an SRT8 conversion, as he said it was a pain and not worth his time (paraphrasing).

So in the end I've got the parts sitting here and I'll leave it up to Apalachian Offroad to figure out how to properly mount everything up. And when they do, I'll share the info and let everyone know how much of a pain and more importantly how much of a pain in the wallet. It's definitely not a conversion that most will be able to nor want to do. I can only think of one other JK running 22s (Orange Crush) and one other JK on this board running larger. I'm hoping that with 22s there will be enough extra clearance to not make it such a pain.

The calipers will bolt right on is what I was told speedy.

I still have the stock sneakers so I haven't looked into it yet, so you may still be right...........

SaharaBlackNo1 · 11-13-2008, 09:13 PM

Interesting. I'll have to go out and measure. That's the first I'd heard that the calipers are a direct fit replacement. Where did you hear that?

rubizen · 11-13-2008, 10:39 PM

Compared to my 06 X my 08 Rubi has terrific brakes. My Brother who drove both also agrees. When upgrading brakes you have to consider brake bias. Jeeps tend to be rear brake biased which means in a hard braking situation the rears will lock up first. Jeeps tend to do this because of the tall center of gravity and the soft springs. During a panic stop a lot of the weight transfers forward, this takes weight off the rears tires. The tires begin to skid before the fronts...sooo....the stopping of your jeep is limited by the traction of the rear tires. Putting huge rotors on front will give the fronts more stopping power which will bring weight off the rear faster. You'll probably just be wasting money and messing with the brake bias. Race teams who can play around with rotor size/ springs and dampers/ proportioning valves can tune the car to utilize the brakes and tires more efficiently. You probably don't have that luxury. Try changing driving habits and maybe some different pads will feel a little more "grabby". I think messing around with huge rotors is overkill. Just my 2 cents.

JC KJ · 11-14-2008, 07:31 AM

Yeah I was thinking of Slotted rotors and a better pad.But I am going down to my buddies shop this weekend and see if he has any SRT-8 Brakes and Calppers that will fit. He should know he builds Vipers and Jeeps of all sorts.

SaharaBlackNo1 · 11-14-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JC KJ

Yeah I was thinking of Slotted rotors and a better pad.But I am going down to my buddies shop this weekend and see if he has any SRT-8 Brakes and Calppers that will fit. He should know he builds Vipers and Jeeps of all sorts.

What size rim are you running? And definitely keep us all posted as to what fits and what doesn't. I'm fairly positive that SRT8 Brakes/rotors don't just bolt up, but maybe your friend can give you an idea of how involved a swap would be to do. I found it near impossible to really get many details from the only two places I know of to have done the swap.

JC KJ · 11-14-2008, 11:13 AM

Will Do on that. If it can be done he should know

tricked919 · 11-14-2008, 12:10 PM

slotted and x-drilled rotors are worthless on a Jeep. Their main pupose is to provide breaking endurance by allowing the rotor to cool more efficiently. On a sports car running miles of twisties on a mountain road its great, because solid rotors will cook a set of pads in no time and then fade. The other downside to cooling rotors is integrity, unless you're dealing with kryo-treated rotors or something really reputable, they have been known to crack. The biggest benefit for something off-road is a set of SS lines to improve response, and if you're a rig-builder, then a big multiple opposed-piston caliper and beefy rotors are icing on the cake. For most wheeling, brakes are fighting gravity more than rotational momentum and for that, stock equipment is plenty fine.

SaharaBlackNo1 · 03-05-2009, 02:07 PM

Figured I'd bring this thread back to life since my JK is going in in about 2 weeks or so to get a couple things, one of which will be to see what they can do with my Brembos. The guys in this thread who said they were looking into it, never seemed to come back with any info. So, hopefully I'll have positive or even negative news. lol Bad news would be better than not knowing I figure. lol Anyway, that's it for now. For those of you wondering about SRT8 brakes with smaller rims than me (that would pretty much be anyone), I'll ask what the smallest rim they think they'd fit on would be. Rotors/calipers together measure about 16.5" just laying there so i'm guessing it'll be 18s on up? More info as I get it.

**NaeKid** · 03-05-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JC KJ

Is there anything out yet for the JKs? My Brakes seem a little WEAK! for as stopping goes

I know it is not a racer but when somebody pulls in front of you and then hits the Brakes it makes your BUTT Pucker! My son gets his license this spring and I want this Jeep to stop fast you know how young Boyss are. Just like there Dads!

I don't know if Vanco has put out a system for the JK yet, but, everyone that has Vanco brakes on their TJ's love them. I believe that if you contact MrBlaine he can give you more details on them and how to purchase / install.

**DBA2GO** · 03-05-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tricked919

VERY true - I put SS braided lines on my Z and all my bikes. Night and day difference - especially when they get hot. There is no give in them. A rubber hose can expand enough to feel a fade.

I just had new flexie Braided Stainless/Kevlar Brake Lines put on my Rubi (35" tires). I'm not sure; but I think I can tell a slight improvement. It may however be just my imagination trying to justify the emptying every pocket.

OregonVette · 03-05-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Prot

brakes are fine on my jk, even when towing, then again I am very relaxed when I drive my jeep and not driving intensely

a'men... I just have to slow the hell down. these things are not race cars, lexus SUV's or even subaru foresters

It's as aerodynamic as giant square box. Old 60's era steering saginaw style technology. I am actually surprised Jeep has 4 wheel disc on it

seriously tho, it is a quiet and stanble ride. best of both worlds imho

alpinistaustin1 · 03-05-2009, 02:35 PM

EBC Greenstuff Pads 7000 Series. Putting a higher friction/ higher quality pad on will help without having to go all the way with new calipers/rotors. New pads along with SS brake lines would be a mandatory upgrade with enlarged tires in my view!!!

Well, I'm not 100% these are available for our JK. We are listed in their catalogue, but not in their vehicle look up feature. Nevertheless, if EBC is not available, than another higher friction pad is good. Anybody have any actual experience with better pads on their JK? Other than that it's just me blowing smoke...

Cheers!