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Unread 10-26-2013, 07:44 PM   #1
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Best winter headlights

Hey, do first forgive me if this is a thread but I spent all afternoon looking into this any didn't find what I'm looking for.

My goal is to uograde from my current stock lighting to a brighter higher out put lights. Here is the catch. I live in canada where we get 6 months of freezing weather a year so I need the lights to produce heat.

Now if at all possible i would like a plug ad play kit. As to the ease, I'm a 20 year old with 0 electrical knowledge. Cost really isn't an issue as I deem proper lighting a safety device. No expense shall be spared.

If anyone has experiences good or bad let them come. But I'm not buying anything led.

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Unread 10-26-2013, 08:46 PM   #2
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I also live in Canada. I just upgraded to a better bulb and also have auxiliary lights for back roads.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 10:43 PM   #3
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Good idea to also aim your headlights. Seems they aren't aimed very consistently from the factory. Due to the sharp cut off on both high and low beam aiming is crucial.
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Unread 10-27-2013, 12:13 AM   #4
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Canadian Tire always has commercials for their Silverstar or Sylvania or something bulbs...might be worth a shot! Also from Edmonton here...I can't say I've ever had a huge problem with frozen lights when driving, if you clean em off before hand its not usually a problem.

There are also a couple good clubs around here with plenty of people who would be glad to help!
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Unread 10-27-2013, 01:36 AM   #5
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Many here try to re-invent the wheel when it comes to auto lighting, but there is no need to.

Here is the definitive source for lighting advice and products: http://danielsternlighting.com/
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Unread 10-27-2013, 05:27 AM   #6
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Oh I have no problem with ice up on my lights now. I was just referring to led lighting not melting the snow or ice
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Unread 10-27-2013, 05:40 AM   #7
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Canadian Tire always has commercials for their Silverstar or Sylvania or something bulbs...might be worth a shot! Also from Edmonton here...I can't say I've ever had a huge problem with frozen lights when driving, if you clean em off before hand its not usually a problem.

There are also a couple good clubs around here with plenty of people who would be glad to help!
These are helpful, but from tests I've seen, they get their brighter output at the cost of service life.
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Many here try to re-invent the wheel when it comes to auto lighting, but there is no need to.

Here is the definitive source for lighting advice and products: http://danielsternlighting.com/
This^^^^
LED lights are a fantastic upgrade if you live in warmer climates that don't experience freezing rain or snow. The Silverstar upgrade is a waste of money on the stock reflectors. Other vehicles I've sworn by them , but other than a color temperature change I don't feel they are worth it.

Until an led manufacture can build them without a heatsink that can melt ice of the lens without melting the internals ,I say Sterns is the way to go.
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Unread 10-27-2013, 07:52 AM   #9
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Everyone constantly complains about the factory lights. The only complaint I had was the crappy low power bulb they put in from the factor and the fact they were not aimed from the factory. The factory housing is not bad with a decent bulb.
We have run 3 Jeeps as daily drivers on country and highway roads for the last 5-6 years. Silver stars have lasted 3years and still going in 2 of the Jeep and the 3 has PIAA Xtreme white for 4 years so far. As I stated headlight aiming is critical if you want them to work.

My suggestion is do a search for headlight aiming procedure. Then check your headlight aim. Silverstars many times can be had at Canadian Tire for $59 for the pair.

Just don't be one of those guys that puts an HID kit in the factory housing and blinds the sh*t out of everyone.
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Unread 10-27-2013, 02:05 PM   #10
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Many here try to re-invent the wheel when it comes to auto lighting, but there is no need to.

Here is the definitive source for lighting advice and products: http://danielsternlighting.com/
X2 on Daniel Stern! Fellow Canuck (Albertan) here, and I did the Cibie H4 upgrade to 65/75 watt bulbs. Huge difference! Well worth it!
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Susquehanna / Rallylights motorsports JK Hella reflector, bulbs, and harness upgrade. Allows you to use higher-output bulbs (I bought the Hellas) - however, because they are using the proper incandescent lens - they will be properly focused on the road so as not to blind other drivers. Plenty of light (way more than the stock lamps/bulbs) and plenty of heat for winter driving. Not bad prices. I've had mine for over a year now and I'm totally satisfied. Check out Hilldweller's lighting thread.

I also agree with the Boss that upgrading bulbs in stock reflectors is a waste of money. The wattage doesn't change, the technology doesn't change - therefore the light output cannot change. They only color the bulb so it looks hotter.

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Everyone constantly complains about the factory lights. The only complaint I had was the crappy low power bulb they put in from the factor and the fact they were not aimed from the factory. The factory housing is not bad with a decent bulb.
We have run 3 Jeeps as daily drivers on country and highway roads for the last 5-6 years. Silver stars have lasted 3years and still going in 2 of the Jeep and the 3 has PIAA Xtreme white for 4 years so far. As I stated headlight aiming is critical if you want them to work.

My suggestion is do a search for headlight aiming procedure. Then check your headlight aim. Silverstars many times can be had at Canadian Tire for $59 for the pair.

Just don't be one of those guys that puts an HID kit in the factory housing and blinds the sh*t out of everyone.
I have to respectfully disagree. The plastic stock lenses sucks regardless of bulb.

OP, start with new lenses, better bulbs (like an H4conversion), and if its in the budget, a wiring harness (Susquehanna/Sterns)

Search for Hilldweller's headlight shoot out.

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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/h...otout-1166827/
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Susquehanna / Rallylights motorsports JK Hella reflector, bulbs, and harness upgrade. Allows you to use higher-output bulbs (I bought the Hellas) - however, because they are using the proper incandescent lens - they will be properly focused on the road so as not to blind other drivers. Plenty of light (way more than the stock lamps/bulbs) and plenty of heat for winter driving. Not bad prices. I've had mine for over a year now and I'm totally satisfied. Check out Hilldweller's lighting thread.

I also agree with the Boss that upgrading bulbs in stock reflectors is a waste of money. The wattage doesn't change, the technology doesn't change - therefore the light output cannot change. They only color the bulb so it looks hotter.

Have you found a dependable bulb you like yet .I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on this as the days get shorter.










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I have to respectfully disagree. The plastic stock lenses sucks
regardless of bulb.


OP, start with new lenses, better bulbs (like an H4conversion), and if its in the budget, a wiring harness (Susquehanna/Sterns)

Search for Hilldweller's headlight shoot out.

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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/h...otout-1166827/
Yeah, I know. You can pollish a turd all you want , but in the end its still a p.o.s.
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Whats the best way to aim headlights sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Unread 10-27-2013, 07:19 PM   #15
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I have to respectfully disagree. The plastic stock lenses sucks regardless of bulb.

OP, start with new lenses, better bulbs (like an H4conversion), and if its in the budget, a wiring harness (Susquehanna/Sterns)

Search for Hilldweller's headlight shoot out.

Edit:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/h...otout-1166827/

Some how it seems this thread has digressed, since this discussion is somewhat seems unrelated to snow or environmental conditions, but ...

With equal respect I must disagree with you. The Headlight Shootout clearly shows the stock reflectors are quite good given the beam pattern they generate with both Halogen and HID bulbs. The beam pattern for the HID is far from optimum but given that it was designed for Halogen bulbs and the light pattern of the sources is quite different, the reflector manages to focus the HID remarkably well (but good enough even for government work )

The stock lens is plastic and subject to tarnishing and scratching but inefficiency is transmission is not much lower than glass. If you really want to discuss the nuances of lighting down to the photon level the Candela Forum is a good source.

I do agree with you regarding the harness.
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