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post #1 of 18 Old 09-05-2012, 12:39 AM Thread Starter
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Ball Joints and Tie Rod Ends - gone at 25K??

Hi Friends - Anyone want to venture a guess how ball joints and tie rod ends got loose on my '08 Wrangler (no accidents and barely driven - only 23K). I'm told they are loose and repair recommended immediately to avoid rollover risk. They say no repair is possible - must be full replacement - almost $2,000!! Seems odd. No symptoms... I went in for an oil change. thanks, guys.

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post #2 of 18 Old 09-05-2012, 01:33 AM
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Best as I can tell, your quote should be around this:
Ball joints, Mopar (crappy): $200 for set
Stock Tie-rod ends, Mopar (crappy): $150
Labor: 6 hours??? $480?
Total: $830??? + Tax???

My solution:
Ball joints, aftermarket, heavy duty Synergy/Polyperformance: $250 for a full set of uppers/lowers.
Tie-rod, complete, Synergy Suspension aftermarket: $350
Ball-joint press, high quality: $200 (if you don't already have one!)
Do-it yourself total, with heavy-duty parts: $900 + no future worries!!!
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post #3 of 18 Old 09-05-2012, 07:09 AM
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Yeah, get the hell away from that shop and get a second opinion.

Not saying that they're not bad, if you beat them, they can fail in 100 miles.
I know the streets where I live will beat a suspension to a pulp if you let it so it's possible.

Like the above post....can't see it running over 1k even with high quality parts. If you're going to stay with that shop, I would ask for a full breakdown of all parts and labor. My guess is that they'll start in with the "well, we're not sure what else we're going to find" blah, blah.... That's when you run.

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post #4 of 18 Old 09-05-2012, 06:04 PM
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Only 23k !!! Take the Jeep to another shop for a second opinion. And don't tell them it's been checked by the first shop. See if they come up with the same list. I can't see that much wear in so few miles.

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post #5 of 18 Old 09-05-2012, 08:17 PM
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Not unusual for stock JK ball joints to fail at low mileage, they are crap. I'm not buying the tie rod ends, however, even Rock Krawler recommends them over aftermarket. Get another shop to take a look at your rig. Sounds like the one you're dealing with like to make a lot of money.

BTW, don't use stock ball joints as replacements. Get the Poly Performance units, much better and about the same price you were quoted.
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post #6 of 18 Old 09-06-2012, 01:16 AM
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get another shop to look at it. Back in Feb, took my 87 Toy xtra-cab to a 4wheelparts shop in town (national chain) for u-joints, told me I need ball joints, tie rods, rear springs, and something else. Only think wrong was the left axle nut has loosen up and need to be tighten. Saved myself $2500.00 for the repair work they want done. If you don't really know the shop, get someone else to look at it.
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post #7 of 18 Old 09-06-2012, 07:22 AM
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This sounds like an excellent opportunity to get to know your rig a bit better. It may seem a bit intimidating changing out your ball joints, but it's actually a fairly simple process:
1. Loosen axle nut and Remove front wheels
2. Remove brake calipers (2 bolts)
3. Remove wheel speed sensor (1 bolt)
4. Remove axle nut
5. Remove unit bearing (3 bolts)
6. Slide axle shaft out of axle
7. Use ball joint press to remove and reinstall ball joints.
8. Reassemble in reverse order.

Only a couple "specialty" tools required that you wouldn't have in your standard ratchet set...a 35 mm socket for the axle nut, and a 1 1/8" socket for the lower ball joint retaining nut. Also, Advanced Auto or Auto Zone have a tool loaner program. I used them to get a ball joint press, they charge you for the cost of the tool (it was about $175 when I did it) and give it to you for 30 days. When you return it they refund all of your money.

Use google and YouTube, do a bit of reading and watch a few videos on ball joint removal, how to use the tool, ect...it really is a pretty easy job.

As the others have said, the Synergy ball joints are nice. $250 for an entire set is also nice. Cheaper than the Mopar ones and much better too. Good luck!


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post #8 of 18 Old 09-06-2012, 09:17 AM
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Best as I can tell, your quote should be around this:
Ball joints, Mopar (crappy): $200 for set
Stock Tie-rod ends, Mopar (crappy): $150
Labor: 6 hours??? $480?
Total: $830??? + Tax???

My solution:
Ball joints, aftermarket, heavy duty Synergy/Polyperformance: $250 for a full set of uppers/lowers.
Tie-rod, complete, Synergy Suspension aftermarket: $350
Ball-joint press, high quality: $200 (if you don't already have one!)
Do-it yourself total, with heavy-duty parts: $900 + no future worries!!!
And to make it less painless you may be able to "borrow" a ball joint press from Advanced Auto. They charge you for the tool and then refund your money when you return it.

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^^^ True! Each to their own, I'd personally rather own one. But rentals actually make more sense in some cases. Drop the price of the job down to $700 for an aftermarket job in this case! lol
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at 23k, it is not covered by warranty?
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post #11 of 18 Old 09-07-2012, 12:14 AM
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08 is out of warranty unless you're the original owner anyways.

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Best as I can tell, your quote should be around this:
Ball joints, Mopar (crappy): $200 for set
Stock Tie-rod ends, Mopar (crappy): $150
Labor: 6 hours??? $480?
Total: $830??? + Tax???

My solution:
Ball joints, aftermarket, heavy duty Synergy/Polyperformance: $250 for a full set of uppers/lowers.
Tie-rod, complete, Synergy Suspension aftermarket: $350
Ball-joint press, high quality: $200 (if you don't already have one!)
Do-it yourself total, with heavy-duty parts: $900 + no future worries!!!
Hey. I googles tht poly performance joint and on there website it says $250. And quantity 1. Is that a full set or just one u joint? It didn't specify on website

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Hey. I googles tht poly performance joint and on there website it says $250. And quantity 1. Is that a full set or just one u joint? It didn't specify on website
That is 1 full set of 4 ball joints. 2 uppers and 2 lowers.

(I know because I JUST installed a set last weekend. Much improved ride!)
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post #14 of 18 Old 09-07-2012, 03:45 PM
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Advanced auto and o'reilly's auto carry Moog ball joints about $140 per side with lifetime warranty. You will never have to buy ball joints again just replace them when needed for free!
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post #15 of 18 Old 11-04-2012, 08:19 AM
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Don't feel bad. My 2007 has 70K miles of nothing but regular driving and the ball joints and drag link have slack in them. The cheap factory parts are very disappointing. At interstate speeds it gets the "Oh Crap" shimmy. I'm doing it myself with good aftermarket parts. May as well do the brakes while I'm in there.
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