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Unread 11-30-2013, 09:10 AM   #1
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Bad tie rod?

Hey guys, hit a mud hole a week ago going pretty fast...my bad.
Knocked the alignment out and took it to a 4x4 shop to get it realigned. The guy said everything underneath basically had to be adjusted.
My problem is that after hitting the mud hole the car will swerve when I hit bumps and the steering is very jolty randomly.
Guy said wheel bearings still had a year left and gave me some offset number (1.8), dunno what that means but he said at 2 they replace.
Also my tie rod looks like it's slightly angled, is this normal or should it be stright?
120,000 miles, 4 inch lift

Edit: if it helps, when I hit bumps it pulls sharply towards them.

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Unread 11-30-2013, 09:13 AM   #2
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Unread 11-30-2013, 09:53 AM   #3
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The offset is likely camber. 2 is smoking dope.... Ball joint is prolly loose.

Imo... If we cant hit mud holes going fast, how can we do speed bumps at 25? Which is "fast" for some off road.
Your pic is pretty dark. if the rod is bent, the only thing "out" is the toe.

One important thing to look closely at is the axle mount for the track bar.
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Unread 11-30-2013, 10:03 AM   #4
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Can this be fixed for free?
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Unread 11-30-2013, 10:22 AM   #5
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Can this be fixed for free?
Your toe.... Yes.
Your bracket? With time, plate, grinder and A welder. I use polly perf brackets if i have time to order one.
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Unread 11-30-2013, 10:25 AM   #6
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Your toe.... Yes.
Your bracket? With time, plate, grinder and A welder. I use polly perf brackets if i have time to order one.
Ball joints..... If you are mechanically inclined. Plus the part.
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Unread 11-30-2013, 10:27 AM   #7
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Just tested ball joints. Jacked the jeep up and I was able to move the right front tire with my hand up and down. With a prob at it had lots of play.
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Unread 11-30-2013, 10:33 AM   #8
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So should I replace them ASAP?
I was thinking about taking it to Firestone and seeing if they come up with them same thing that I did. (Jeep dealership is out of question XD)
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So should I replace them ASAP?
I was thinking about taking it to Firestone and seeing if they come up with them same thing that I did. (Jeep dealership is out of question XD)
Loose, asap.
Be sure its ball joint movement and not unit bearing play. Neither should have play.
Have them show you any movement they claim to find before parts are changed or work is performed. Only Accept the use of Moog ball joints.
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Unread 11-30-2013, 10:51 AM   #10
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Im not sure what kind of 4x4 shop would have passed up on a gravy job like that....
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Unread 11-30-2013, 11:27 AM   #11
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Eh the guy who owns the place didnt want us to buy something we didn't need XD. He try's to be really honest.
It's at firestone now. But do you guys think that bad ball joints would cause the car to be so uncontrollable? And it makes a squeak noise when turning left.
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Unread 11-30-2013, 02:14 PM   #12
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Update:
Firestone said nothing's wrong and that it drives like it should...HA
Guess I'll be taking back to the 4x4 shop -_-
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Unread 11-30-2013, 03:41 PM   #13
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I moved the steering wheel with the engine off and the pitman arm (the think connected from the power steering box to the tie rod???) moves a lot up and down when I turn left and right. Maybe it's loose?? Also I've come to the conclusion that it is steering wheel slop and the wheel has a about an inch of play.
Can someone please tell me if the pitman arm is suppose to move up and down excessively?
The sloppy steering only occurs during the pitman movement.
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Unread 11-30-2013, 07:29 PM   #14
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Find someone that wl actually jack it up and check things out. A steering wheel shake is the first thing on the to do list with a helper. If you felt movement when you jacked it up, how can two shops not find anything wrong?
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Unread 11-30-2013, 07:30 PM   #15
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Do you know how to check tie rods, drag links, ball joints, and track bar bushings? Very easy if you have a jack, a pry bar and someone to help.
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