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post #61 of 631 Old 01-05-2006, 09:51 PM
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i just cant figure why the front fenders, are removable

i mean, thats not going to help your approach and departure angles since the bumper will still be there.....the only thing i can think it would help with is, MAYBE, when you disconnect the front swaybars, without the fenders there, you may get more flex


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I was leaning toward getting something 'more civilized' for my next vehicle. However this would be really tempting if they offered it with either the hemi or a diesel.

Any idea when these will make it to the dealers?
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i just cant figure why the front fenders, are removable

i mean, thats not going to help your approach and departure angles since the bumper will still be there.....the only thing i can think it would help with is, MAYBE, when you disconnect the front swaybars, without the fenders there, you may get more flex
Narrower when going down the trails? I mean.. you can only flex so much. I hope that big piece of plastic fender is only on Rubicons. Doesn't look right to me, too much Honda Elementy for me.


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I was leaning toward getting something 'more civilized' for my next vehicle. However this would be really tempting if they offered it with either the hemi or a diesel.

Any idea when these will make it to the dealers?
August/September '06. Get a Wrangler..


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Narrower when going down the trails? I mean.. you can only flex so much. I hope that big piece of plastic fender is only on Rubicons. Doesn't look right to me, too much Honda Elementy for me.
that does make me curious to see what the sport and sahara trims will look like...that is cool, however, that they are bringing back the sahara

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i just cant figure why the front fenders, are removable
Cost savings - it is probably much cheaper to manufacture with plastic fenders instead of sheet metal. I like the idea since many people flat fender already. It should also be easy to make some bolt-on flat fenders.

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post #68 of 631 Old 01-05-2006, 10:03 PM
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I just hope the gas mileage doesn't improve "too much"

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And they call my YJ a "Wrongler"...

Overall it's OK, but it is a much different vehicle than its predecessors. You could see the CJ in the YJ and the YJ in the TJ but I'm not seeing much CJ, YJ or TJ here...

I really just need to go thrash one and see!
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Inline 6

Everything I know always told me that inline engines produce way more torque, other than that, looks pretty good

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post #71 of 631 Old 01-05-2006, 10:38 PM
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Inline engines produce less vibrations but torque is a byproduct of a long stroke, small bore engine regardless of layout. That said, most inline engines are of the long stroke, small bore variety...
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Sure hope the come out with a pickup.
I wouldn't hold my breath. DC got rid of the pickup because it was competing against the Dodge pickups. I read or heard somewhere that market research told DC that the majority of Jeep owners also owned luxury cars, so they made the decision to make the Jeep more comfortable.


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...I'm not seeing much CJ, YJ or TJ here...
I see a lot of CJ and TJ in there. I don't see much YJ because the lights are round. They moved the front turn signals from the fenders back to the grill like they were in the CJ and YJ. The rear taillights still look like trailer lights like on the YJ and TJ. Except for the windows on the hardtop and the interior, I think they did a nice job continuing the looks.


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Everything I know always told me that inline engines produce way more torque
I do not know about the 3.8 V6, but I would think that it would not have as much low end torque. We have a heavy boat that we pull. The 4.0 TJ is able to get going at lower RPM's than our 3.7 V6 Liberty, so I would expect the higher torque to be at higher RPMs.

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You sure that aint the 2007 Liberty?
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I see the CJ in it... look at the parking lamps

It kinda depresses me to think that I'm going to have an outdated Jeep, kinda takes the attention off of us, no?

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post #75 of 631 Old 01-05-2006, 11:06 PM
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Thats great, I have heard them talkin about it now for a while and thats the first I have seen of it, no matter what its never gonna be able to go very far off of what it is now which I find to be a relief.

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