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Unread 05-20-2013, 10:50 AM   #1
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2dr towing, 4dr towing, tow v. max-tow pkg

I'd like to get an understanding of towing w/ a Wrangler.

I understand that the 2 door can be optioned w/ a trailer hitch and 4 pin connection. A 4 door can be identically optioned or be 'upgraded' to the max-tow package [which seems to be nothing more than the tow package w/ a 3.73]. Now, one can also buy a 2 door w/ a 3.73 and a tow package [it just costs more [ that Jeep increased the cost of the 3.73 option from '12 to '13]....

What I don't know is: is there a software addition to either or both tow packages that help w/ anti-sway? I'm getting all kinds of stories from dealerships and salesmen. I don't trust what I'm being told.

So my questions are 2:

1] If one buys a 2 door, adds the 3.73 and a tow package, have they effectively created the max-tow package [albeit at a greater cost]?

2] Is there a software element to either/both of the tow package[s]?

Bonus/rhetorical question: why the heck don't they offer the max-tow package on the 2 door?

Thank you in advance,

John

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Unread 05-20-2013, 10:59 AM   #2
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There is an anti-sway program for the later Jks.
I don't think anyone knows for sure if the anti-sway soft ware is present on a JK without the factory ordered tow package. It's also not known if the feature can be turned on if it didn't come with it. It's just programming, so it should be available, but who knows?

The 2dr's two tow ratings are 1,000 lbs, and 2,000 lbs, depending on gears installed. I think they just don't call the 2,000 lb package Max Tow.
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Unread 05-20-2013, 06:44 PM   #3
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wow, I'm amazed at the dearth of comments.

I hoped for some insight w/ respect to my 2 questions, expecting this forum to be the fount of knowledge of all things Jeep.

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Unread 05-20-2013, 07:56 PM   #4
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wow, I'm amazed at the dearth of comments. I hoped for some insight w/ respect to my 2 questions, expecting this forum to be the fount of knowledge of all things Jeep.
And with comments like this, I am sure you will soon be flooded with advice from people who take the time and energy to provide helpful information free of charge, on a timetable that is more to your liking.
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Unread 05-21-2013, 10:08 AM   #5
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And with comments like this, I am sure you will soon be flooded with advice from people who take the time and energy to provide helpful information free of charge, on a timetable that is more to your liking.
Thanks Prince,

My comment was meant to be read sincerely, not sarcastically, but apparently it was not understood.

I'm impressed w/ the knowledge base here and am legitimately surprised.

Sorry if I offended you or anyone.



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Unread 05-21-2013, 11:11 AM   #6
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Thanks Prince,

My comment was meant to be read sincerely, not sarcastically, but apparently it was not understood.

I'm impressed w/ the knowledge base here and am legitimately surprised.

Sorry if I offended you or anyone.



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So, were your questions answered? (It sounded like you were not satisfied with the response.)
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Unread 05-21-2013, 12:16 PM   #7
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So, were your questions answered? (It sounded like you were not satisfied with the response.)
No, regrettably they have not yet been answered.

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Unread 05-21-2013, 12:32 PM   #8
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No, regrettably they have not yet been answered.

John
I regret that, too, because I thought I addressed your questions in the second post.
Reviewing you questions, and my answers, I still think so.

Here is your first question:
1] If one buys a 2 door, adds the 3.73 and a tow package, have they effectively created the max-tow package [albeit at a greater cost]?

And my answer:
The 2dr's two tow ratings are 1,000 lbs, and 2,000 lbs, depending on gears installed. I think they just don't call the 2,000 lb package Max Tow.

It addresses the gears you mentioned, and the thing called Max Tow, which doesn't exist for the 2dr. (It also covers the bonus question.)


Here is your second question:
2] Is there a software element to either/both of the tow package[s]?

And my answer:
There is an anti-sway program for the later Jks.
I don't think anyone knows for sure if the anti-sway soft ware is present on a JK without the factory ordered tow package. It's also not known if the feature can be turned on if it didn't come with it. It's just programming, so it should be available, but who knows?


Is there something I didn't cover?
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Unread 05-21-2013, 12:33 PM   #9
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They probably don't offer the max tow package with the 2dr because even know it has the same gears as the 4dr doesn't mean it can tow as much. most people don't tow much with a 2dr wrangler.
May I ask what you plan on towing?
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Unread 05-21-2013, 02:47 PM   #10
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They probably don't offer the max tow package with the 2dr because even know it has the same gears as the 4dr doesn't mean it can tow as much. most people don't tow much with a 2dr wrangler.
May I ask what you plan on towing?
build a harbor freight trailer like the ones found in these threads:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/m...hread-1180456/

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/bo...r-kit-1274811/

I plan on using it for light hauling, camping and hauling kayaks. I plan on building a rack over the top.

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Unread 05-21-2013, 02:51 PM   #11
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I regret that, too, because I thought I addressed your questions in the second post.
Reviewing you questions, and my answers, I still think so.

Here is your first question:
1] If one buys a 2 door, adds the 3.73 and a tow package, have they effectively created the max-tow package [albeit at a greater cost]?

And my answer:
The 2dr's two tow ratings are 1,000 lbs, and 2,000 lbs, depending on gears installed. I think they just don't call the 2,000 lb package Max Tow.

It addresses the gears you mentioned, and the thing called Max Tow, which doesn't exist for the 2dr. (It also covers the bonus question.)


Here is your second question:
2] Is there a software element to either/both of the tow package[s]?

And my answer:
There is an anti-sway program for the later Jks.
I don't think anyone knows for sure if the anti-sway soft ware is present on a JK without the factory ordered tow package. It's also not known if the feature can be turned on if it didn't come with it. It's just programming, so it should be available, but who knows?


Is there something I didn't cover?
You reply is appreciated but it doesn't state whether or not 'piece-mealing' the parts equates to a 'max-tow' package.

Your qualifying ...'but who knows' ... at the end of your second part didn't give me warm and fuzzies about it.

Thanks for your help, again, I do appreciate it but was hoping for a reply which was definitive.

All the Best,

John
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Unread 05-21-2013, 03:19 PM   #12
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You reply is appreciated but it doesn't state whether or not 'piece-mealing' the parts equates to a 'max-tow' package.

Your qualifying ...'but who knows' ... at the end of your second part didn't give me warm and fuzzies about it.

Thanks for your help, again, I do appreciate it but was hoping for a reply which was definitive.

All the Best,

John
" 'piece-mealing' the parts" does bring the tow capacity to the highest rating for your 2dr. If you are looking to bring it up to a Max Tow Package rating, you're out of luck, as the highest rating for the 2dr isn't called Max Tow.
Max Tow only applies to the 4dr, which brings it up to 3500 lbs.

If you could install the anti-sway program on your JK, it would not increase its tow capacity.
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Unread 05-21-2013, 03:28 PM   #13
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To be clear, I understand that the increase in capacity comes from the increased wheel base. As that puts more leverage in favor of the front end. The lower gears improve the pulling aspect, not so much the tongue weight. Is this correct?
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Unread 05-21-2013, 03:36 PM   #14
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In the above post, that is with identical springs. Ect. Strictly 4dr vs / dr.
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Unread 05-21-2013, 04:36 PM   #15
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Thanks Prince,

My comment was meant to be read sincerely, not sarcastically, but apparently it was not understood.

I'm impressed w/ the knowledge base here and am legitimately surprised.

Sorry if I offended you or anyone.
Fair enough. I retract my previous chastisement (:
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