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Unread 11-03-2013, 12:00 PM   #1
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2014 Tailgate Strength?

I have a 2014 JKU with a 35" Toyo M/T hanging on the stock tire carrier. I just ordered a Teraflex HD Tire Carrier, but wanted to get opinions if I need it. I plan to wheel lightly, but this is also my daily driver. I am a new JK owner and have limited experience, but the a Teraflex video even says Jeep reinforced the tire carrier recently. For daily driving will the stock tailgate be fine? Does anyone know if the 2014 tailgate has been improved? Thanks,

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Unread 11-03-2013, 02:26 PM   #2
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The main and most important thing you can do is to keep the tire snugged up tight against the tailgate if stock. If need be these will help you accomplish that.
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Unread 11-12-2013, 04:28 PM   #3
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If you're really not wheeling much you're probably fine. You can't go wrong with the teraflex unit. Maybe just keep an eye on it and see if it starts to be a problem or not, thenove to the teraflex setup.
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Unread 11-12-2013, 05:51 PM   #4
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I have a 2014 JKU with a 35" Toyo M/T hanging on the stock tire carrier. I just ordered a Teraflex HD Tire Carrier, but wanted to get opinions if I need it. I plan to wheel lightly, but this is also my daily driver. I am a new JK owner and have limited experience, but the a Teraflex video even says Jeep reinforced the tire carrier recently. For daily driving will the stock tailgate be fine? Does anyone know if the 2014 tailgate has been improved? Thanks,
I have a 2008 JKU with a 35" tire on a Smittybilt bumper + carrier. The carrier is such a pain in the azz, that I decided to go with the Teraflex reinforcement bracket on my 2013 JK (instead of selecting another bumper/carrier solution). So far, the Teraflex works as advertised; it's far more solid than I expected - well constructed and takes the weight off the swing-gate. The Teraflex unit basically places the load across the reinforced arm that fixes to the rear quarter. No rattles, squeeks or issues here and far less expensive than a carrier.

As for keeping a 35 on the rear and supported by the OEM swing-gate and welds ... depends on who you ask. Some people have reported popped welds, sagging gate, rattling, etc. I think you're asking for problems with the added weight; not a question of "if" but rather "when". How do I know? Because I ran a 35 on the stock swing-gate and I noticed that after a few months, the door was slightly lower and required a bit of upward motion when closing. I'm sure others have had zero issues without modifications to the factory gate; just my own experience FWIW.
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Unread 11-13-2013, 01:57 PM   #5
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I have a 2008 JKU with a 35" tire on a Smittybilt bumper + carrier. The carrier is such a pain in the azz, that I decided to go with the Teraflex reinforcement bracket on my 2013 JK (instead of selecting another bumper/carrier solution). So far, the Teraflex works as advertised; it's far more solid than I expected - well constructed and takes the weight off the swing-gate. The Teraflex unit basically places the load across the reinforced arm that fixes to the rear quarter. No rattles, squeeks or issues here and far less expensive than a carrier. As for keeping a 35 on the rear and supported by the OEM swing-gate and welds ... depends on who you ask. Some people have reported popped welds, sagging gate, rattling, etc. I think you're asking for problems with the added weight; not a question of "if" but rather "when". How do I know? Because I ran a 35 on the stock swing-gate and I noticed that after a few months, the door was slightly lower and required a bit of upward motion when closing. I'm sure others have had zero issues without modifications to the factory gate; just my own experience FWIW.
Why do you say it's a pain in the ***? I'm trying to decide between the bumper+tire carrier or the reinforcement bracket. Thanks in advance for your input.
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Unread 11-13-2013, 02:31 PM   #6
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Why do you say it's a pain in the ***? I'm trying to decide between the bumper+tire carrier or the reinforcement bracket. Thanks in advance for your input.
The Smittybilt XRC bumper + carrier is a PITA to be more specific (i.e. not all carriers). Two reasons: (1) The fit and finish is crap to where the locking mechanism has never lined-up with the post from day one; requiring that I push down on the gate whenever I want to secure or open it. (2) The Smittybilt is not integrated with the swing-gate, thus requiring that the carrier be opened and then the swing-gate. Other companies offer nicer quality carriers that integrate with the door for a single motion open and close.

I prefer the Teraflex bracket on my 2013 over the carrier on my 2008; it gets the job done and costs 40% what I spent on the carrier. If you hate the OEM rear bumper, then I could see getting a bumper/carrier or if you have your eye on another brand besides Smittybilt. I do like the AEV, LoD, and Rock Hard bumpers (with carrier) that I've seen up-close.
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Unread 11-13-2013, 02:43 PM   #7
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Nice thing about the teraflex is it's light weight too.
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Unread 11-13-2013, 02:56 PM   #8
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Why do you say it's a pain in the ***? I'm trying to decide between the bumper+tire carrier or the reinforcement bracket. Thanks in advance for your input.
I'm in the same boat here. I've been running no spare and have been real happy with that set up. But, now since I moved out of the city I don't like commuting 25 miles without it. Trouble is the teraflex price almost justifies a whole new bumper with carrier! Unless you go more towards high end.
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Love my teraflex hd carrier. Didnt push my luck to run without it. But it is a quality product! Im getting the hi lift jack mount for it tomorrow.
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Unread 11-13-2013, 08:53 PM   #10
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$475 seems a lot to me just for a beefier bracket. Are there any other in between solutions or brands that offer better than stock durability? I have a '14 as well, so I would like to know if the tail gate has been improved over previous model years.
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Love my teraflex hd carrier. Didnt push my luck to run without it. But it is a quality product! Im getting the hi lift jack mount for it tomorrow.
Can you post a pic after you install the Hijack mount? I've also seen a Rotopax mount advertised, but never seen it up-close.
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Unread 11-14-2013, 10:32 AM   #12
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Love my teraflex hd carrier. Didnt push my luck to run without it. But it is a quality product! Im getting the hi lift jack mount for it tomorrow.
+1 and been debating that hi lift mount for awhile now.
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Unread 11-14-2013, 07:09 PM   #13
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Ok so i have the accessory mount on. Looks good. It can hold a hi lift jack, or you can buy a rotopax can mount, or you can mount a rotopax to your hi lift. It also has a tab for an antenna. Only issues i see are the antenna is really close to the jack. Not sure if thats gonna help my range. Also the top of the jack is high enough that drive thrus and parking garages might be trouble. The mount is very simple and rock solid though. :-)
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Unread 11-14-2013, 08:08 PM   #14
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If you have any doubts about the need for a tire carrier with 35"+ tires check out this unrelated video. It clearly shows the load and flex the spare can create

youtube.com/watch?v=3ZwMMlL-L_g
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Unread 11-15-2013, 09:46 AM   #15
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Man that spare was flopping around more than Billy Idols wrist!
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