2009 Hill Assist PITA

**PSYCH0** · 09-10-2009, 08:54 PM

Havin fun stalling on hills with this new stupid Hill Assist clutch on the 2009... it works well on slight inclines, level areas and down hill.... where I let up on the clutch slowly and it inches forward...

But on steeper inclines I really have to rev it high and slip the clutch to prevent it from stalling.... If I try to let it out like a normal clutch and give it more gas as I let it out I can feel the brake... then POP it stalls...

Can someone teach me to drive a 6 speed again please! Why is this so different from the regular clutch... and whats the trick to this... It's only a problem on steeper hills!

cburtner · 09-10-2009, 09:02 PM

I too had trouble at first. I was flooring the gas and poping the clutch to keep from stalling. Now it's like my HA got used to my driving style, I ease off clutch and give some gas and never come close to stalling.

I still question the ability of a computer to learn my driving style, but it seems to be happening or I am getting used to the Jeep.

**ronjenx** · 09-10-2009, 09:13 PM

I believe the emergency brake is a better way to go.

If you really don't like it, do this:

HSA Off
If you wish to turn off the HSA system, follow this
procedure:
1. Start with the engine off and vehicle in PARK (automatic
transmission) or NEUTRAL with clutch out
(manual transmission) with wheels straight. Apply parking
brake on manual transmission vehicle.
2. Start the engine.
3. With the engine running, the brake applied, and the
clutch out, rotate the steering wheel 180° counterclockwise
from center.
4. Press the ESP OFF switch four times within twenty
seconds.
5. Rotate the steering wheel 360° clockwise (180° clockwise
from center).
6. Cycle ignition switch OFF then ON.
7. If the sequence was completed properly, the “ESP/
TCS Indicator Light” will blink several times to confirm
HSA is off.
Steps 1-7 must be completed within 90 seconds to turn off
HSA. Repeat steps 1-7 to re-enable HSA functionality.

**PSYCH0** · 09-11-2009, 06:18 AM

That will turn off the HSA permanently? Good write up!

Do you have a procedure to turn the Low Tire warning light off permanently as well!

neXgen · 09-11-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PSYCH0

That will turn off the HSA permanently? Good write up!

Do you have a procedure to turn the Low Tire warning light off permanently as well!

yup AEV ProCal.

bbhockey19 · 09-11-2009, 02:29 PM

yea the Hill Assits is terrible.. have to get used to it.. when i test drove my 09 2 months ago.. was on a hill and been driving clutch all my life, i was taught to feather clutch and gas at the same time... but this thing.. the ****ing JK didn't move.. I have gotten used to it but certainly think it is a pain in the *** some times.. it is nice that the car doesent roll baack but it is a *****.

**ronjenx** · 09-11-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bbhockey19

yea the Hill Assits is terrible.. have to get used to it.. when i test drove my 09 2 months ago.. was on a hill and been driving clutch all my life, i was taught to feather clutch and gas at the same time... but this thing.. the ****ing JK didn't move.. I have gotten used to it but certainly think it is a pain in the *** some times.. it is nice that the car doesent roll baack but it is a *****.

Fortunately, it can be turned off. The emergency brake handle is much more controllable.

1398653 · 09-12-2009, 03:24 AM

I actually like the HSA. I have driven standards all of my life and know how to start on a steep hill with a stick but the HSA makes it easier. I tested it the first day I owned the jeep on a very steep seasonal use road and it held me firmly in place after I removed my foot from the brake. In my opinion it erases some of the advantage of having an auto off road. At least you dont have to worry about rolling 3 feet anymore. I do however think that it is important to learn how to start a stick on a hill without this feature.

**mikebigh** · 09-12-2009, 08:38 AM

left right left right up down up down aa bb start. 100 lives.

or turning of HSA. I just hooked up a nintendo controller to my ECU, works wonders.

daggo66 · 09-12-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PSYCH0

Havin fun stalling on hills with this new stupid Hill Assist clutch on the 2009... it works well on slight inclines, level areas and down hill.... where I let up on the clutch slowly and it inches forward...

But on steeper inclines I really have to rev it high and slip the clutch to prevent it from stalling.... If I try to let it out like a normal clutch and give it more gas as I let it out I can feel the brake... then POP it stalls...

Can someone teach me to drive a 6 speed again please! Why is this so different from the regular clutch... and whats the trick to this... It's only a problem on steeper hills!

I've never had an issue with it. Of course I never had an issue driving a clutch without it and never used an emergency brake. I didn't even realize I had it on my '09 until I started out on a hill one time. I though to myself, "That was weird." When I got home I checked the manual and realized what it was. Never had an issue with stalling though. I really can't imagine why you should be stalling.

1398653 · 09-12-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by daggo66

I've never had an issue with it. Of course I never had an issue driving a clutch without it and never used an emergency brake. I didn't even realize I had it on my '09 until I started out on a hill one time. I though to myself, "That was weird." When I got home I checked the manual and realized what it was. Never had an issue with stalling though. I really can't imagine why you should be stalling.

I have never used the E-Brake either even on really steep stuff before I had HSA. You just need fast feet. I am so glad that I was taught how to drive on stick and never drove an auto until I had my license for 11 years.

scbroder · 09-12-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66

I've never had an issue with it. Of course I never had an issue driving a clutch without it and never used an emergency brake. I didn't even realize I had it on my '09 until I started out on a hill one time. I though to myself, "That was weird." When I got home I checked the manual and realized what it was. Never had an issue with stalling though. I really can't imagine why you should be stalling.

My jeep is the first thing that I have driven with HSA. I find it annoying most of the time. When HSA activates, I feel like it need to push the accelerator petal farther than I do when it is deactivated. Feels like I am trying to take off with the parking brake on.

jcole · 09-12-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mikebigh

left right left right up down up down aa bb start. 100 lives.

or turning of HSA. I just hooked up a nintendo controller to my ECU, works wonders.

U U DD L R L R B A START

33 lives x 3 continues = Making Contra possible to beat.

daggo66 · 09-12-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1398653

I have never used the E-Brake either even on really steep stuff before I had HSA. You just need fast feet. I am so glad that I was taught how to drive on stick and never drove an auto until I had my license for 11 years.

You don't need fast feet, you just need to know where you clutch engages, let it out to that point, move your foot from the brake to the gas and go. Should be no more roll back than an automatic.

daggo66 · 09-12-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scbroder

My jeep is the first thing that I have driven with HSA. I find it annoying most of the time. When HSA activates, I feel like it need to push the accelerator petal farther than I do when it is deactivated. Feels like I am trying to take off with the parking brake on.

I don't get that feeling at all with mine.