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Unread 09-19-2010, 10:57 AM   #1
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2 Dr JK - Seat won't fold & slide for rear passenger

The release still allows the seatback to fold forward, but the seat won't budge.

The only way a rear passenger can get out is to have the front seat passenger use the seat adjuster to move the seat forward.

Anybody know the fix for this?

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Unread 09-19-2010, 11:06 AM   #2
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That's the way its supposed to work...
Front seat folds and slides forward, they dropped the tumble feature for the JKs.
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Unread 09-19-2010, 11:27 AM   #3
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I had the same thing happen to my 2 door. If you look under the seat on the inboard side of the outboard rail you'll see where the spring loaded mechanism is attached to the seat rail. There is a small pin about 3/4" long that slides from the outboard side of the seat into the seat mechanism that give it it's "spring".

That pin has a tendency to slide out (towards the door) and disengage itself from the spring mechanism. I'm horrible at explaining this but if you trace the cable from the handle under the seat and then look along the seat rail for the pin I think it will make sense to you. All you have to do is hold the mechanism up and push the pin back into place. You can access the pin by looking in between the seat rail and the seat mount rail. I just used a small flat head screw driver to re-seat the pin.

It's happened to me a couple times, next time I think I'll throw some JB weld on the head of the pin to prevent it from backing out. Hope this makes sense to you.
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Unread 09-19-2010, 11:57 AM   #4
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I had the same thing happen to my 2 door. If you look under the seat on the inboard side of the outboard rail you'll see where the spring loaded mechanism is attached to the seat rail. There is a small pin about 3/4" long that slides from the outboard side of the seat into the seat mechanism that give it it's "spring".

That pin has a tendency to slide out (towards the door) and disengage itself from the spring mechanism. I'm horrible at explaining this but if you trace the cable from the handle under the seat and then look along the seat rail for the pin I think it will make sense to you. All you have to do is hold the mechanism up and push the pin back into place. You can access the pin by looking in between the seat rail and the seat mount rail. I just used a small flat head screw driver to re-seat the pin.

It's happened to me a couple times, next time I think I'll throw some JB weld on the head of the pin to prevent it from backing out. Hope this makes sense to you.
Thanks! I'll give it a look see.
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Unread 09-19-2010, 12:22 PM   #5
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Razorbill - Your description was easy to follow. I found the pin and moved it all around to no effect. Guess my issue is different. Thanks anyway.
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Unread 09-19-2010, 12:52 PM   #6
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I went a took another look. There is a metal rod that goes from one side of the seat to the other. On the outboard side of that rod is a flat steel "L" shaped bracket with the center cut out. That small pin should slide into that area that is cut out of that bracket.

If that pin isn't engaged in something than that is your problem. I'll try and get a picture here in a minute.

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Unread 09-19-2010, 01:05 PM   #7
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Alright, I grab a picture. The area I circled is where the small pin engages in the L shaped bracket. You will need to hold the rod in position to get the in the slot. Hope this helps:



Here's another pic. The yellow is the metal rod I refer to and the green outlines the inboard side of the L bracket, you can see the area of the bracket that is milled out where the small pin slides in. It looks L shaped when looking under the seat from the front, not from the side.

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Unread 09-19-2010, 05:53 PM   #8
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Thanks again Razorbill!

I just got back and saw your pictures. I had found the right pin, but the rod was rotated to the rear and so what I saw didn't look like your pictures.

At first I thought there must have been a design change from '09 to 10, but then I took my own pictures from the same angle you did and I could see that the tab you outlined in orange was rotated to the extreme rear and stuck. Once I got it to rotate, I could see that the pin was supposed to fit as you described.

The pin is VERY loose in its guide holes. What a dumb design!

I'm amazed that you were ever even able to figure this out. I couldn't have done it without your help.
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Unread 09-19-2010, 06:12 PM   #9
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Trust me I fussed with it for a couple hours and maybe even a couple bad words before I figured it out. Glad you got it fixed.
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That's the way its supposed to work...
Front seat folds and slides forward, they dropped the tumble feature for the JKs.
I thought this was accurate. But ?
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Unread 11-18-2011, 03:50 AM   #11
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I thought this was accurate. But ?
07 to 10 they fold and slide. 11 and 12 they fold and tumble.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 04:05 AM   #12
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My 12 doesn't seem to tumble.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 08:34 AM   #13
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My 12 doesn't seem to tumble.
It's more of flop than a tumble. It'll fold, slide forward and then flop towards the windshield to give about another 2" of entry space. The passenger seat is the only one that'll do it.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 07:29 PM   #14
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my '11 doesn't do that....
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Unread 11-18-2011, 09:04 PM   #15
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Guess I'll be checking mine tomorrow....I know mine didn't fold up any when I tried it.
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