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post #16 of 30 Old 09-08-2013, 07:09 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry, 5 speed not 4 speed

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post #17 of 30 Old 09-09-2013, 01:46 AM
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It's 100% the drive by wire- it takes all the feel out of it. I traded off my manual for an auto because of it but you can get a chip that increases the throttle response I can't remember the name of it but you can buy it from quadratec.
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post #18 of 30 Old 09-10-2013, 10:07 AM
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It's 100% the drive by wire- it takes all the feel out of it. I traded off my manual for an auto because of it but you can get a chip that increases the throttle response I can't remember the name of it but you can buy it from quadratec.
I may have to find out what the chip is because I actually had the unthinkable thought that I should have gotten an auto vs. the manual too (bad jeeper, BAD!)! The difference is still obvious after 3 weeks now. As much as I had to go through for this JK and having a 4 year loan I figure I am going to have to make due for awhile.

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It's 100% the drive by wire- it takes all the feel out of it. I traded off my manual for an auto because of it but you can get a chip that increases the throttle response I can't remember the name of it but you can buy it from quadratec.
I have searched high and low on Quadratec and can't find anything for a Pentastar chip. Can you provide a link?
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post #20 of 30 Old 09-11-2013, 09:21 AM
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I also recently got a sport w\ 6 speed. 3.73 rear end. I am learning to drive a stick all over again, too. It seems so unpredictable sometimes. Sometimes it's as smooth a ride as can be, other times is jerky as can be. I can't figure out what I'm doing when it's jerky v. smooth. Kind of annoying.

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I also recently got a sport w\ 6 speed. 3.73 rear end. I am learning to drive a stick all over again, too. It seems so unpredictable sometimes. Sometimes it's as smooth a ride as can be, other times is jerky as can be. I can't figure out what I'm doing when it's jerky v. smooth. Kind of annoying.
Have you tried to creep along in 4hi or 4low? When I did it felt like I had to give it gas which obviously makes it accelerate much faster than I want to creep.
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post #22 of 30 Old 09-11-2013, 11:12 AM
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I had the same result! I read you could start in first and second with no clutch, it wasn't a very impressive result.

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post #23 of 30 Old 09-11-2013, 11:18 AM
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4lo in 1st is hard as hell to stall. Maybe a difference in the 3.8 and 3.6?

I haven't tried the restart without the clutch deal.
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post #24 of 30 Old 09-11-2013, 12:04 PM Thread Starter
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To be honest. I got nervous and asked the hubbie to drive and he told me he tried both but think we were in 4hi...good reason to try again (he didn't want to take the jeep on it's maiden mud voyage out of respect to me cuz it's my jeep).
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post #25 of 30 Old 09-11-2013, 04:22 PM
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Pentastar and 4.10's here. Very very tough to stall in 4 low. Starting without the clutch can be handy if you're in a bit of water.

I can't compare this to other vehicles as I learned stick on this, but I'm sure you'll get a hang of it pretty quickly!
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post #26 of 30 Old 09-11-2013, 05:38 PM
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It's partially the drive by wire and partially the hill assist. All the 2013 wranglers come with hill assist that allows you not to roll backward for a few seconds while stopped on a hill {when on trail its annoying}. It'll hold for a short time then let go, or let go sooner if you hit the throttle. It's a super touchy clutch until you wear it in a little as well, but you will get used to it. I came from my ax-15 to my new wrangler, and now I have almost 3k on the clock the clutch feels smooth as butter.
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post #27 of 30 Old 09-11-2013, 06:38 PM
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^^That is the kind of news I want to hear. I can tell it is smoothing out some. The first night driving around, my wife got car sick lol. (She gets sick in the car easily, though.) I only have 700 miles on mine, so maybe I just need to give it more time. It sure is fun, though
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post #28 of 30 Old 09-12-2013, 07:23 AM
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Same here, it took me time to get used to it. Now after 3000km I'm fine.
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post #29 of 30 Old 09-12-2013, 07:44 AM
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I may have to find out what the chip is because I actually had the unthinkable thought that I should have gotten an auto vs. the manual too (bad jeeper, BAD!)! The difference is still obvious after 3 weeks now. As much as I had to go through for this JK and having a 4 year loan I figure I am going to have to make due for awhile.
I was embarrassed at how many times I stalled my 13 JK, but I've had it for 2 months now and no stalls in the last 3 or 4 weeks, haven't done any serious wheeling though. (Not that I ever have, this is my first Jeep. I plan to start wheeling with a friend who just traded in his lifted FJ for a 2013 Sport.)
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post #30 of 30 Old 09-12-2013, 09:08 AM
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I was embarrassed at how many times I stalled my 13 JK, but I've had it for 2 months now and no stalls in the last 3 or 4 weeks, haven't done any serious wheeling though. (Not that I ever have, this is my first Jeep. I plan to start wheeling with a friend who just traded in his lifted FJ for a 2013 Sport.)
Just remember in 4lo you won't need as much clutch as you think you do at first. You end up burning it up and jumping forward.
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