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Unread 05-15-2013, 06:52 AM   #46
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Exactly what I'll be doing with mine. I'll enjoy following along.

How have you setup your rear suspension?

I'll be ordering the artec 4 link kit for the 14 bolt
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You will like the 14 bolt combo kit. Thats the one I went with and its a super nice piece

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Unread 05-15-2013, 08:00 AM   #47
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You will like the 14 bolt combo kit. Thats the one I went with and its a super nice piece
Awesome. I was looking at that and ballistic fab. While we have never had trouble with them in the past, I have read some disconcerting stuff over on pbb
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The Artec stuff is nice, I have their trusses on my 60's. Lots of trigger time getting it installed, expect about 10 feet of welding per axles. It took me at least 6 hours per truss to get them burned on without warping the tubes. Solid finished product though.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 08:48 AM   #50
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The Artec stuff is nice, I have their trusses on my 60's. Lots of trigger time getting it installed, expect about 10 feet of welding per axles. It took me at least 6 hours per truss to get them burned on without warping the tubes. Solid finished product though.
That is some time into the trusses. Didn't realize that much time was involved.
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The Artec stuff is nice, I have their trusses on my 60's. Lots of trigger time getting it installed, expect about 10 feet of welding per axles. It took me at least 6 hours per truss to get them burned on without warping the tubes. Solid finished product though.
Do you have pictures? Every inch of that axle would have to be welded to make 10 feet. What welder are you using that it took you 12 hours? Must be a lot more than I realized!
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When you add it up, 10 ft is about right. Even more for the front with the full hydro skid. The truss ships as a big box of laser cut parts. Artec uses 2 backbones which each need to be fully welded down the length of the bridge,then placed on the axle and fully welded down the length of the tubes. It also has 4 lateral braces welded between the backbones.

I'll post some pics later on when I'm on my PC, don't have them on this phone. I'm on a miller 211 which is a great rig. You have to factor in lots of cooling time with the total time in the job. Probably only an hour actually on the trigger but with that much welding surface and cranked up to weld to 1/2" tubes it generates a lot of heat.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 10:21 AM   #53
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I spent at least 3 hours welding just the trusses and haven't even got to welding them on the axles yet. It is a lot of welding.... and im using a millermatic 252
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Unread 05-15-2013, 10:24 AM   #55
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I havent done the rear just yet because getting the dam factory spring perches off the 14 bolt is a PITA. I might spend some time working on everything this weekend.
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Awesome, glad to know what to prepare for. Thanks guys.
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I have the miller 211 also. Holding out on moving into my new place with a 220 in the garage so I can crank that sucker up and really burn it in. Doing multiple passes on 110 is a pain in the ***.
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Regarding the amount of welding, yes these do take some time to weld up but its worth it. The truss construction is solid and we build them for people that are serious about the truss making their axle as strong as possible. If we built it like others, it wouldn't hold up to the rigors our racers put them through. We make them to not only allow for a mounting point for the links but also to strengthen the whole axle. We also wanted to make it affordable and good looking. I can tell you that despite the amount of welding, all we ever get on these trusses is compliment after compliment, not only from racers but weekend warriors too.

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Unread 05-15-2013, 12:06 PM   #59
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Regarding the amount of welding, yes these do take some time to weld up but its worth it. The truss construction is solid and we build them for people that are serious about the truss making their axle as strong as possible. If we built it like others, it wouldn't hold up to the rigors our racers put them through. We make them to not only allow for a mounting point for the links but also to strengthen the whole axle. We also wanted to make it affordable and good looking. I can tell you that despite the amount of welding, all we ever get on these trusses is compliment after compliment, not only from racers but weekend warriors too.

Lots of racers trust our trusses to keep them racing and the products they use are available to everyone and you benefit from the rigors of race testing.
I agree. I like the fact they come unwelded because that keeps them affordable and easy to modify if needed. I got 90% of the bracketry from Artec and it was on my door in 48hrs and the cost was minimal.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 12:11 PM   #60
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Right on. Our miller CP300 should make quick enough work of them...now to start the hunt for axles.

Dirty - how have you setup your rear coilovers and how heavy is your rear (what size/location cell are you running, etc.)? I'll need to send my rear shocks out to be threaded and I think I'll change the valving at the same time, they're just too stiff currently.
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