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Unread 11-09-2013, 02:51 PM   #1
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1" body lift vs. 2" body lift FACTS!

So i need to get a little more clearance for my jku.

Running 37's, spidertrax 1.24 spacers, 2.5 Rough Country lift, bushwacker flat fenders with automatic trans.
Already have trimmed the pinch seam quite a bit and am still rubbing a little in the rear. I am set on doing a body lift.

Since the price difference isn't much i want to do a 2" body lift instead of a 1". However, after reading on line everyone seems to post "I wouldn't do more the 1" IMO".

Im looking for facts! With reasons to back it up! Why wouldn't you do a 2" body lift compared to the 1"?

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Unread 11-09-2013, 04:58 PM   #2
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The higher you go on a body lift, the more stress you're putting on the metal around it. I had a YJ that a previous owner had installed a 3" body lift on. Of the 11 body mounts, 6 or 7 of them were completely worthless...the flex in the sheet metal had ripped right through it so the pucks were sticking out. All of the mounts were damaged to some degree, but like 3 of them were ok-ish.

Here's one of them, this was typical damage:
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Unread 11-09-2013, 05:08 PM   #3
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One inch body lift looks ok.

Two inch body lift looks like ****.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 07:10 AM   #4
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With a 1"-1.25" body lift, you get the benefits with nearly no side effects. It's noticeable but can be blended in and doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. No clearance issues (shifter requires mild grinding or Rough Country shifter bracket), no lengthening of lines and hoses are required.

A 2" really doesn't have any more benefits than a 1"-1.25" but you really start seeing the side effects. The appearance can't be hid/covered up as easy, more clearance issues.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 07:13 AM   #5
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If you need a two inch body lift to clear your tires, you were too lazy to do your suspension correctly.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 07:52 AM   #6
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Body lifts are for Tj's. There is no good reason to do it at 37"s at all. you can do a FLAT belly Jk and not move the body or the motor mounts.


You gain nothing off road, you raised the COG for nothing. Your trouble is the lift you need at least 3" bump stops with flats. The Rough country lift was the first mistake. The drop pit arm they sell and the drop track is a$$ backwards in design.

But from what i can tell sure go with the body lift should fit right in. make you feel tall in the saddle.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 08:38 AM   #7
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Body lifts are for Tj's. There is no good reason to do it at 37"s at all. you can do a FLAT belly Jk and not move the body or the motor mounts.

You gain nothing off road, you raised the COG for nothing. Your trouble is the lift you need at least 3" bump stops with flats. The Rough country lift was the first mistake. The drop pit arm they sell and the drop track is a$$ backwards in design.

But from what i can tell sure go with the body lift should fit right in. make you feel tall in the saddle.


Typical "JK body lift" ignorance. The bias and lack of overall understanding is humorous.

They do have their benefits and their place even on a JK, but you have to understand how everything CAN work together. You have to go beyond just throwing parts at the Jeep and hoping they stick though.


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Body lifts are for Tj's. There is no good reason to do it at 37"s at all. you can do a FLAT belly Jk and not move the body or the motor mounts.

JK's with 35's and 37's can benefit from a Body lift, but 37's are really the point that a JK will start to see the most benefit out of a body lift. Body Lifts aren't just for a FLAT belly.


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You gain nothing off road, you raised the COG for nothing. Your trouble is the lift you need at least 3" bump stops with flats.
You say that like you think the COG is improved by raising EVERYTHING up and lengthening the bump stops.

Body lifts decrease the COG both at ride height and when the suspension compresses when compared to the suspension lift only needed for a certain tire size. Body lifts allow you to decrease the amount of bump stop needed which also decreases the amount of suspension lift that is needed. This can increase overall suspension travel along with increasing the overall stability when the suspension compresses. It allows for a more balanced suspension than just chasing "droop" because of the loss of compression caused by bump stops. The body lift can also allow for more room for relocating upper shock mounts without cutting into the tub or body. How much benefit you get will come down to more than just throwing the body lift on though.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 01:42 PM   #8
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Unread 11-11-2013, 10:43 AM   #9
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HWGA....lol
This is getting to be as bad as the daily wave threads.

Especially the guys bashing Body lifts who have no experience with one on a JK.

Keep in mid guys not everyone cares about LCOG, maybe he wants to be taller (gasp!)

I do intend on using a 1" BL with my suspension lift, benefits that help me decide is the tire clearance without drive line angles worsening and easier cleaning between the body and frame.
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Unread 11-11-2013, 10:52 AM   #10
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Wow thanks guys. Lots of good info here. This has been enough for me to decide to go with the 1" over the 2". If you have any more info keep it coming. Could save someone else from making a mistake too!

Side note: To the people feeling the need to point out flaws in my set up or my selection of equipment , I'm more than aware of them. Not everyone can afford to do 4" full long arm kits with wheels and tires all at once. I'm making the best with what I have at the moment.
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"This is getting to be as bad as the daily wave threads."
First, I am not bashing anything, second, my point is that there are already tons of threads on body lifts pointing out all aspects of the mod...my complaint, if any, is not the daily wave, it is the lack of knowledge of the search function...'nough said. SLADE wrote a series of threads that gives good info on a BL and what needs to be done to do one right on a JK...to the OP, might want to look there for more info. IMO, 1 inch max on a JK...but not from experience, from the looks of what I have seen.
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The search function is frankly crap if you have a free account. The inability to at least limit a search to one section of the site (like the JK subforum) is particularly crippling. To contribute, just use google and include "jeepforum" and "jk" in the search. I've had much better luck this way.
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To the people feeling the need to point out flaws in my set up or my selection of equipment , I'm more than aware of them. Not everyone can afford to do 4" full long arm kits with wheels and tires all at once. I'm making the best with what I have at the moment.
If you can afford a brand new jeep and a set of 37's to throw on it, you can afford to do things correctly, you just don't want to.

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Especially the guys bashing Body lifts who have no experience with one on a JK.
Hope that one wasn't directed toward me. I may not own a jk, but I have plenty of experience with body lifts on JK's.
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Unread 11-11-2013, 09:12 PM   #14
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Ok this thread has run its course, closed.
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