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Unread 12-29-2008, 10:10 AM   #76
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Does anyone actually have the technical specs for the X-treme Power bulbs? Like: lumens, color, avg. life? Did it say anything on the package? Thanks.

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Unread 12-29-2008, 10:47 AM   #77
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where did you buy these Philips Xtreme +80. I've been searching for months to find some.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/been-gone-10-days-jk-mods-637821/


^^^check out my mod thread...the link is in there. i think it was suvlightsDOTcom, but i believe i provided the exact link.


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Unread 12-29-2008, 11:11 AM   #78
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i agree with vegas jeep. i'd like to find a way to keep the fogs on with the high beams, but i re-aimed my stock lights and they're great. much better than my wife's xj, even without the fogs. wouldn't turn down brighter ones tho.
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Unread 12-29-2008, 03:19 PM   #79
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The lights suck- yes.

Most of my driving is in the city, so it doesn't bother me because the streets are already lit up really good- hell I could drive with no lights and not have a problem. But in the country its another story. Anytime I am in the country at night, I turn on the factory fogs, and they make a big difference since they are lighting up the area immediately in front of you really well.

Of course if I'm in the country an there are no other cars around, I flip on all my added lights
I've got into the habit of automatically switching the fogs on when I switch on the headlights.
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Unread 12-29-2008, 03:21 PM   #80
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I put in the Silverstars a month ago, the difference is unreal!
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Unread 12-29-2008, 03:24 PM   #81
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I've got into the habit of automatically switching the fogs on when I switch on the headlights.
I do that too, but lately with all this snow, a lot of people have decided they dont like my hellas. I dont think Ive used them on a public road with oncoming traffic since november.


And theyre aimed just below my low beams.
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Unread 12-29-2008, 03:33 PM   #82
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Does anyone actually have the technical specs for the X-treme Power bulbs? Like: lumens, color, avg. life? Did it say anything on the package? Thanks.
Found this on another site. Hope it helps (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...&Number=813244)
Its manufacturing tolerances have been improved and the filament has been made smaller and burns hotter, similar to +30% and +50% premium bulbs. However, the glass bulb size has also been reduced. The Philips X-Treme Power claims 80% more light output than a regular H7 and 30-50% more light output than other premium bulbs.

Light output is 1,500 lumens, which is in line with other premium bulbs, but the amount of stray light and has been drastically reduced and efficiency increased, resulting in getting the light where it needs to be. Color temperature is 3,400 Kelvin. The bulb is made from quartz glass and the special filament should have normal (2-3 years) and not reduced service life.

I'll get a set (H7) in a while and report my findings.


Click the links:

http://www.xp-lamp.com/more-light.php?lc=en

http://www.xp-lamp.com/original-equipment.php?lc=en
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Unread 12-29-2008, 08:43 PM   #83
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SoCalJK - thanks for the info! I wanted to compare them to the Vision Plus and their regular bulbs, however I canít re-find the link with the specs for those bulbs now. Why canít Phillips just publish the info?
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Unread 01-04-2009, 11:40 PM   #84
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Just before Christmas I installed a set of Cibie 7" headlamps (French company - the lamp is made in Belgium) I got from Daniel Stern. I was getting ready to spend the time between Christmas and New Years wheeling in Moab and still had to install my Hella Rally 4000's so I opted to stay with a 60/55 bulb (no time to install relays). One look at the factory wiring told me that anything more would demand a relay.

At any rate the Cibie lens are glass and the headlight unit weighs a whole lot more than the stock unit. I ran a Narva 60/55 +50 H4 bulb and the difference, with no increase it wattage is phenomonal. The problem with the JK headlights isn't so much the bulb as it's s****y lens. With the Cibie on low the close range spread and illumination is great and the reach of the high beams amazes me. Now I can see that an 85/80 or a 100/90 would do a lot of good with these beam patterns. I think I could get away with running this much bulb because the Cibie lens has a European E pattern and has a sharp cutoff to the left to avoid blinding oncoming drivers. I'm gong to install 2 relays and only use the marginal stock wiring to trigger the relays. I'll run 12 gauge straight from the battery to the fused relays and then to the bulbs.

FWIW the 100w Hella 4000's with the Cornering Beam lens do a great job off road and when I lit them up on a loney stretch of freeway (along with the highbeams) - Wow! The cornering beam has about a 300 yard reach but is almost as wide as a fog beam.

As an aside on the headlights. I could never get the stock JK's adjusted so that they functioned OK on both Low and High beams. If one was good the other was bad. One night my wife commented that we got flashed as often on low beam as high. The beauty of the Cibie is the the patterns are cut into the glass such that when the lows are properly aimed the highs are too. The problem with Hella replacement lens is that like the stock JK lens the there is too much vertical displacement between the high and low beams. I know it's more money than just throwing a supposedly brighter bulb in the JK headlight but I think it's a much better solution. The headlights are 75 each, the bulbs 19 each and you need an adaptor set from Ford (about 90) to convert from the stock H13 socket to H4 - total is about 280. If you want to go to a higher wattage bulb figure another 30 to 50 for relays. I think this is the "elegant" solution to the JK's headlight problem.
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Unread 01-05-2009, 12:57 AM   #85
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this thread is worthless without pix, and not of a lit up wall either. we need output shots, with something in the frame for scale.
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Unread 02-23-2009, 09:00 AM   #86
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Just before Christmas I installed a set of Cibie 7" headlamps (French company - the lamp is made in Belgium) I got from Daniel Stern. I was getting ready to spend the time between Christmas and New Years wheeling in Moab and still had to install my Hella Rally 4000's so I opted to stay with a 60/55 bulb (no time to install relays). One look at the factory wiring told me that anything more would demand a relay.

At any rate the Cibie lens are glass and the headlight unit weighs a whole lot more than the stock unit. I ran a Narva 60/55 +50 H4 bulb and the difference, with no increase it wattage is phenomonal. The problem with the JK headlights isn't so much the bulb as it's s****y lens. With the Cibie on low the close range spread and illumination is great and the reach of the high beams amazes me. Now I can see that an 85/80 or a 100/90 would do a lot of good with these beam patterns. I think I could get away with running this much bulb because the Cibie lens has a European E pattern and has a sharp cutoff to the left to avoid blinding oncoming drivers. I'm gong to install 2 relays and only use the marginal stock wiring to trigger the relays. I'll run 12 gauge straight from the battery to the fused relays and then to the bulbs.

FWIW the 100w Hella 4000's with the Cornering Beam lens do a great job off road and when I lit them up on a loney stretch of freeway (along with the highbeams) - Wow! The cornering beam has about a 300 yard reach but is almost as wide as a fog beam.

As an aside on the headlights. I could never get the stock JK's adjusted so that they functioned OK on both Low and High beams. If one was good the other was bad. One night my wife commented that we got flashed as often on low beam as high. The beauty of the Cibie is the the patterns are cut into the glass such that when the lows are properly aimed the highs are too. The problem with Hella replacement lens is that like the stock JK lens the there is too much vertical displacement between the high and low beams. I know it's more money than just throwing a supposedly brighter bulb in the JK headlight but I think it's a much better solution. The headlights are 75 each, the bulbs 19 each and you need an adaptor set from Ford (about 90) to convert from the stock H13 socket to H4 - total is about 280. If you want to go to a higher wattage bulb figure another 30 to 50 for relays. I think this is the "elegant" solution to the JK's headlight problem.
Did the Cibies plug right in or did you need an adaptor?
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Unread 02-23-2009, 09:23 AM   #87
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this thread is worthless without pix, and not of a lit up wall either. we need output shots, with something in the frame for scale.

then buy some lights and take some pictures


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Unread 02-23-2009, 10:54 AM   #88
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I just would like to know the best headlight upgrade without messing with any wires. A simple unplug and plug in would be ideal.Thanks!
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Unread 02-23-2009, 10:55 PM   #89
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I just would like to know the best headlight upgrade without messing with any wires. A simple unplug and plug in would be ideal.Thanks!
The Cibie's are H4's and as I recall the stock JK is H13's. I used an adapter from the Ford dealer parts dept. You can build your own adapters for less. There probably something that is a simple plug and unplug but I'm not aware of what it is. The problem with the JK headlights is the headlamp itself, not the bulbs. The headlamp is just a cheap piece. That's a shame to as the 7" round is supposedly the easiest light to do right.
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Unread 02-24-2009, 03:51 AM   #90
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I just would like to know the best headlight upgrade without messing with any wires. A simple unplug and plug in would be ideal.Thanks!
Phillips Visionplus +80 H13 from SUV Lights dot com.
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